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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:30:10 GMT, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >swamp wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:13:03 -0700, Rat & Swan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>swamp wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:02:50 -0700, Rat & Swan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>wrote: >>> >>>>>lazarus wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>>>Then why is it that lesbians are the least likely group to get AIDS? >>> >>>>>That was always a good come-back to the homophobes. The fact is >>>>>that lesbians were not ignored in the safe-sex campaigns either; >>>>>there was mention of dental dams, the problem of open cuts on >>>>>fingers and in the mouth, and the equal opportunity dangers of >>>>>S/M. (Have you ever tasted a dental dam? Bleech....) >>> >>>>HIV is typically spread by virus-laden semen entering through mucous >>>>membrane tears. In the vast majority of cases this occurs during anal >>>>sex among homosexual males. Women can contract HIV the same way, but >>>>are a "dead-end" for obvious reasons. They can be given the virus, and >>>>on rare occasions it can turn up in tiny amounts in vaginal swabs, >>>>saliva, and corneal impressions, but as non-semen producers women are >>>>non-vectors. It's an extremely poor etiological come-back, Karen. >>> >>>Swamp, this was the early 1980's. Nobody was sure how contagious HIV >>>was through vaginal secretions. The point is that Lesbians were also >>>concerned, and targeted for safe-sex information, such as it was then. >>>Plus, there was the issue of blood in S/M. >> >> >> ok. Now we're in 2003. Why do you capitilize "lesbians," > >Because, unlike queer, Lesbian is a proper noun. It >refers to the inhabitants of the island of Lesbos, >women who were all carpet-munchers. According to my dictionary lesbian is not capitalized and not, in the case of anyone not from the island, a proper noun. Sue > >> what >> difference does the woman's sexual preference make wrt AIDS, and why >> not stick to the facts? Facts are more important than condoms, imo. >> Using another's suspect argument to promote homosexuality/lesbianism >> in the '80s or now is of no consequence, but twisting epidemiological >> data to promote an agenda isn't a good idea. >> >> Gay males are high risk for HIV. Lesbians aren't. Even in 2003. >> >> And I don't care who anyone sleeps w/ if it's not my g/f, >> >> >>>Rat >> >> >> -- swamp
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