Re: Feminoid-AR Nut: "Meat-loving tied to oppression"

Rat & Swan wrote:
> Bill wrote:
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> > Rat & Swan wrote:
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> > > Bill wrote:
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> > > <snip>
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> > > > Not that this would surprise you, but the dogmatic 
> > > > leftist/collectivist carpet-muncher Karen Winter has long said that 
> > > > human use of animals and male brutality to women are intimately linked.
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> > > Where, Jonnie?  Provide a quote.
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> > It isn't a question of finding the single smoking large-caliber gun, 
> > you stupid bitch.
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>   Nice dodge, jonnie -- you _can't_ find a quote (since I don't
>   believe what you say I do ), so you now claim you don't need one,
>   you just KNOW.

Not mind-reading at all, stupid lying bitch; stitching 
together what you write, and arriving at a coherent 
conclusion about it.

> >    Fat is a feminist issue because of the relative
> >    powerlessness of women in our culture, as pedophilia
> >    is an issue because of the relative powerlessness of
> >    children in our culture.
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> >    http://tinyurl.com/w7q5
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> Which is true, in itself.

Which is NOT true.  "Fat" is not a feminist issue.

> > "Powerlessness of women" is blamed in feminist ideology, to which you 
> > undeniably subscribe,
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> Ah, but what kind of feminist theory, jonnie?

Radical, hairy-armpit, man-as-oppressor theory.

> > on male oppression and brutality, just as the misuse of animals is.
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>   Humans are all in the misuse of animals together; it's nothing
>   specifically male.  See Rubystars and Sue Bishop.
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> > But then we find something much more forthright; no beating around the 
> > bush:
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> >    >"is there a relationship between our God-talk and the
> >    >way we abuse animals? Is it possible that something
> >    >similar is occurring when we gender God as male and
> >    >ignore animals?"
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> >    IMO, without question.
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> Yes,

Yes.  Yes, you conceive of animal "oppression" as a 
male problem, for which radical feminism is the answer.

You are wrong, right across the board.

> >    http://tinyurl.com/w7qp
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> > That is, in the opinion of Karen Winter, oppression of women by men 
> > and oppression of animals by humans are linked:  men are bad.
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> Ridiculous.  I don't think "Men are bad."  I don't say "Men are bad."

We see that you think it, based on what you write.

> > You are so trivially easy to show to be a liar.  When I say you 
> > believe something, it is so:  I know you. Eventually, I will know you 
> > better than you know yourself.
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> No,

Yes.