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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:11:30 -0700, Rat & Swan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As a lying ideologue, Karen always prefers to believe in political myth >> rather than facts. > > Sorry, both of you, but I was there in 1984, working with the LA CARES > program of AIDS education. Reagan himself may not have been an active > homophobe, but plenty of the Right-wing people in his administration > were, and frustrated efforts at education by banning material on > safe-sex in clear language and ignoring the epidemic as much as > possible. The gay community helped itself, with very limited "help" > from any government agencies. > > <snip> > > Rat Lets be frank here, ok? The gay community didn't help itself, or the Epidemic would have stopped in short order. This is one disease one cannot get from a toilet seat, a kiss, or via airborne infection. In the 80s, the basics of the disease were being discovered, though the vector was already well known. Yet the disease still progressed in leaps and bounds. And yes..it was that Gay Disease. And one passed on via homosexual contact..generally casual and multiple party casual contact. And yes..there were a lot of people whom simply figured that gays could stop the epidemic simply by stopping buggering each other. But Reagan didn't ignore the problem, he indeed did start the wheels rolling. Perhaps he didn't toss as much money at it as you would have liked..but look at the stats now..far more money is spent currently on AIDS research, than is spent on breast cancer research etc etc..other problems effecting far more of the population than gays and IV drug users. Diseases that are not self caused. If the Gay population had been responsible, it would have stopped or slowed down to nearly a crawl and not spread to the heterosexual population by bisexual males or IV drug users before the mid 90s. Now you folks piss and moan that someone should come in and fix the results of your bad behavior...bad behavior by which I mean the extreme failure to practice safe sex. And of course now..you lads have the fucking strange cult of Bug Chasers..gays whom intentionally seek out HIV positive sex partners. If you want to put a halt to the "epidemic" harness your HIV positive players. You should consider yourself lucky you were not put in long term quarantine like any other carrier of a fatal infectious disease, as it is obvious that the Gay community has no interest in arresting the disease or in responsible behavior. Not politically correct..tough shit. If you folks want to die..simply swallow a pistol. Its a hell of a lot cheaper than making society pay for your long long term treatment. Gunner "The British attitude is to treat society like a game preserve where a certain percentage of the 'antelope' are expected to be eaten by the "lions". Christopher Morton
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