Re: Information

"rick etter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "frlpwr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > There are massive numbers of collateral deaths
> > associated with livestock production, most of
> > them intentional.
> =======================
> Name them.

You've been shown the evidence many times
now, yet you still refuse to believe that livestock
production accrues collateral deaths. How sad,
especially since you've spent your entire Usenet
existence trying to convince vegetarians of the
collateral deaths associated with crop production.

The vast majority of livestock is fed crops, and
crops accrue collateral deaths, so what part are
you having trouble with in concluding livestock
production accrues a vast amount of these deaths
in direct proportion to the crop feeds they are fed?

Apart from the collateral deaths accrued for their
feed, livestock is protected by the A.D.C.

[The Animal Damage Control (ADC) program is
administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture
under its Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
(APHIS). One of ADC's biggest and most controversial
activities is killing coyotes and other predators, primarily
to protect western livestock.

Under pressure from ranchers, the U.S. government
exterminates tens of thousands of predator and "nuisance"
animals each year.  In 1989, a partial list of animals killed
by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal Damage
Control Program included 86,502 coyotes, 7,158 foxes,
236 black bears, 1,220 bobcats, and 80 wolves.  In 1988,
4.6 million birds, 9,000 beavers, 76,000 coyotes, 5,000
raccoons, 300 black bears, and 200 mountain lions, among
others, were killed.  Some 400 pet dogs and 100 cats were
also inadvertently killed.  Extermination methods used include
poisoning, shooting, gassing, and burning animals in their dens.
Keith Schneider, "Mediating the Federal War of the Jungle,"
New York Times, July 9, 1991, 4E;  Carol Grunewald, ed,
_Animal Activist Alert_, 8:3 (Washington D.C.: Humane
Society of the United States, 1990), 3.]
http://www.ti.org/adcreport.html

> Tell me what collateral deaths go with the beef
> I eat. I'll  wait.
>
The grass fed beef you claim to eat is protected
by programs such as the ADC, and besides that,
it has to be slaughtered, processed, stored and
distributed like any other foodstuff. Your claim,
that no animals die for you grass fed beef is absurd.