Re: Some Hard Truths for Ethical Vegetarians

"Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> "Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > Derek wrote:
> >
> > >>                    COLLATERAL DEATHS
> > >>
> > >>   Many vegetarians believe that, because they do not eat
> > >>meat, no animals die to feed them.
> > >
> > > Animals do not die to feed vegetarians.
> >
> > Yes, they do.
>
> No, they don't. Vegetables can be grown without
> causing any harms to animals,

There's an obvious goalpost move there, from what "does" happen, to what
"can" happen. Your assertion "Animals do not die to feed vegetarians." uses
"do" not "can", therefore it's not supported by "Vegetables can be grown
without causing any harms to animals", which incidentally is also false in
it's own right, even cultivating a backyard garden kills animals, you just
have chosen to ignore animals too small to be significant to you. Explain
why your sizeism is more moral than my speciesism.