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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 13:21:08 -0700, Rat & Swan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rick wrote:
Another sniveling, goose stepping Bushzi -
Good term -- I'll have to remember it.
Have you seen the step-by-step comparison between Bush's
takeover and the Nazi takeover in 1933-4?
Since, as you admit, you aren't an American, I'll forgive the historical inaccuracies of an obvious attempt to further deteriorate America's faith in its leadership.
It's almost
a one-to-one correspondence. We are living is a fascist
state, quite literally.
Throughout your dialogue, you change the meaning of the word "we." The most consistent interpretation is that you are from Germany (i.e. "We had a chancellor [Hitler] appointed..." The statement above, then, indicates that Germany is still a fascist state. If that was your intended messages, I extend my sympathies to you. Luckily, for us Americans, we don't live in a fascist state.
We had a chancellor appointed without an electoral majority,
That's too bad for your country. Our president, George Bush, was elected with the Constitutional electoral majority: 271 votes verses 266. (http://www.potus.com/gwbush.html). Although his opponent, Gore, got more of the *popular* vote, according to our laws, it is the electoral votes (i.e., the votes of each of the States in the United States) that actually count.
the rounding up of political opponents into the first concentration camp at Guantanomo,
I don't know why you Germans let Hitler put citizens into a conentration camp without due process. We don't do it. The detainees in Guantanamo are non-citizens, prisoners-of-war (or, at least, armed conflict) (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/jan-june03/detainees_1-22.html). Albeit, from an *international* perspective, the situation is deplorable... but to compare this situation to Hitler's habit of imprisoning German citizens because they were gypsies, gays, Jews, etc. just illustrates ignorant understanding. I thought Europeans were supposed to be educated better.
our Reichstag fire ( 9/11 -- there's evidence Bush knew about it beforehand, just as Hitler knew the Reichstag fire was planned, but didn't know the details personally),
This is sheer ignorance. *I* saw CIA Fact sheet reports in 1996 warning about a terrorist attack, possibly using hijacked planes. The problem is--what do you do with that kind of intelligence? Do you tell your citizenry not to fly planes? Keep the planes on the grounds? Hell, Americans *know* that terrorists have attacked the United States, but still many of them grumble about increased airport security when the threat posture changes because of unsubstantiated intelligence...
followed by our Enabling Act (the Patriot Act) gutting civil rights.
I have to admit, the Patriot act scares me. But again, I don't see an easy way around the advantages that modern technology has given criminals. The part of the Patriot act I can agree with is the wiretapping portion: criminals are constantly changing their telephones (it's very easy to go to a cellular service and buy a dozen phones, use a phone once, and switch phones--prior to the Patriot act, a warrant had to be given for each phone. Now, a warrant only needs to be awarded to surveill a person).
Like Hitler, Bush has tried to turn people's attention away from domestic problems by Glorious Foreign War, but his Stalingrad has come a bit earlier than Hitler's.
It's only a "Stalingrad"-like because Americans don't have the resolve to win a war (look at Vietnam). The wimpiness generally is spearheaded by the liberal-left (my opinion).
But, unlike Hitler, who took a country in a depression and revived the economy (temporarily), Bush has CREATED a depression and destroyed the healthy economy and surplus he inherited from Clinton.
Again, you have absolutely no idea of the history of the U.S., even history that has occurred within the last decade. The rhetoric you're spewing simply tries to undermine the resolve of one of the greatest nations on the Earth. Almost intellectual terrorism of sorts. :)
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