Re: Call To Ban All Fishing In 1/3 Of World's Seas

zip wrote:
> > > > > Bullshit. The fishing industry wants sustainability and profits. What
> > > > > good is a profit today if there's no chance of one tomorrow? That's
> why
> > > > > the fishing industry is working for sustainable practices.
>
> Sustainable practices in the fishing industry?  Get off the glue buddy!!

Yes, sustainable practices. Fishermen realize their livelihood is 
limited -- in time and income -- if their quarry isn't sustainable.

> > > > Crap. Some fishermen what sustainability. Some what whatever they can
> >
> > get.
> >
> > > ALL fishermen want sustainability. Why would they be in and remain in an
> > > industry, making large investments in capital (boats, nets, etc.) and
> > > labor, if they faced *no* future in it?
>
> All fisherman might want sustainability but that doesn't mean that fishing
> industry is sustainable by any means.  

You're painting with that old broad brush. Fishing IS sustainable, and 
certain segments of the industry have already made the corrections 
necessary for sustainability.

http://www.state.ak.us/adfg/geninfo/special/sustain/susalpol.pdf
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/
http://www.fisheries.nsw.gov.au/com/!com-home.html

etc.

> The problem is that the industry is
> now controlled by large corporations who must make a larger profit each
> year.  

Wrong. The problem is some countries routinely overfish areas for 
domestic consumption AND exports. One of the biggest culprits is China.

> How do you increase profits?

Easiest way: make sure supply does not meet demand, so market price is 
always higher than equlibrium price.

>  Well one way is to fish more
> efficently,..which actually means that you use less fisherman in bigger
> factory ships scooping up large amounts of fish. 

You're talking out of your big, fat ass. Efficiency DOES help to 
increase profits, but creating more supply than demand wipes out those 
profits since price will always fall.

> I'm sure the fishing
> industry will continue for most of our lifetimes,..it's just that you're
> going to be eating fish that we used to consider crap fish.

I don't eat fish, crap or otherwise. Fishing will continue, and 
everything will be just fine.