Re: Jonnie & Son.

Added afv to the cross-post since I address that group below

Ray wrote:
> > The only point you proved is that self-confessed "compassionate" sods
> > like yourself are actually the most depraved, malevolent examples of our
> > species. You cannot bring yourself to condemn terrorists,
>
> I condemn terrorists, thus far you have only spoken of ARA freedom fighters.

Did they liberate any geese from the chef's house? Were any geese kept 
beneath the Buddha statue they damaged? Were any geese freed from the 
adjacent businesses affected by the water damage? Etc.

Real freedom fighters accomplish a lot more than destruction of private 
property.

> Nelson Mandela was a self-confessed  terrorist - do you condemn him - I
> don't.

I think Mandela was and is a shallow cause celebre. He still deserves 
the pariah status he earned in the 1960s when he advocated armed 
resistance. The Left got a lot of traction with Mandela as their poster 
boy, when in fact he was one of the dirtiest shits to have been 
portrayed as a "political" prisoner. Under that definition, Zacarias 
Moussaoui and your own countryman Richard Reid are "political 
prisoners." God forbid, some day some misguided assholes will make them 
posterboys.

Back to your point. See Botha, see Mandela. See Apartheid, see ANC. Same 
coin, different sides.

> > this shit --
>
> Well, I try to answer your messages, so I suppose you are correct - this
> time
>
>  you're not much different than they are You have so much
>
> > compassion for animals, and nothing but vitriol for your fellow man.
>
>
> Guess it works the other way around with you  - troll
>
> I do not consider scumbags like Ball, yourself and vivisectionists to be
> fellow men. They/you are low class savages.

You've proven a point I've made to which others, especially at afv, have 
taken exception: veganISM isn't so much about diet (I'm politically 
correct on that), it's all about the public posture and politics of the 
movement. Most of those "open-minded" people at afv have no tolerance 
for dissenting political views, much less from someone who shares their 
dietary goals.

Your diet is nebulously vegetarian; mine is vegan. Your posture is 
shallow; mine is principled. You talk the talk; I walk the walk.

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