Re: problem of evil - to clear things up

"Bill Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> "Damien Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I don't think I follow your point, but if your saying that the problem of
> > evil is a nonsense, conceptually, then fine, but I think most people,
> > including myself, recognise it as a problem that can be understood and
> > thought about.  (The reason I wrote the original post was that I had seen
> > lengthy debates on this group about it.)
> >
> No, I am not saying that it is conceptual nonsense; it is more like
> blasphemy: the proponents of there being a problem of evil are placing their
> wills in opposition to god's. What I am saying is that the concepts of good
> and evil as they are employed in presenting the problem are purely human
> conceptions, i.e., they represent a HUMAN (and, therefore, limited and
> partial) on things.  Those limited and partial conceptions do not represent
> a divine perspectives on existence.   What we are doing is demanding that
> god conform itself with our merely human concerns and aims, and
> manufacturing out of that an alleged problem.  The order of existence (and,
> if there is a god, god's ordering of existence) flows forth wholly
> independently of our human hopes, aspirations, etc.  For a believer in god,
> our task is to conform ourselves to god's will, not demand that god conform
> itself to our will.  To put it in different language: the human task is to
> accept one's fate and, with a glad heart, act in accordance with it; it is
> merely futile childishness to yammer and complain about how one can't, in
> one's finitude, discern any reason for it.  Or still differently: god's ways
> are utterly beyond human understanding; how can the finite grasp the
> infinite?

By your definition than belief in God is completely and utterly
needless then because you cannot possibly have any understanding of
God nor could you ever hope to understand what God's will constitutes.
 Thus, the concept od God means absolutely nothing.  One must accept
the world at face value.  Isn't that one of the fundamental views of
the atheist to begin with, that life has no reason just accept it? 
How can the finite be held responsible for following the infinite?

The original post here dealt with ome of the common arguments against
the concept of a merciful God and the counter-argument in that
scenario.

I've always found it an interesting view that evil should be
segregated.  Could we not already be within the secluded place to
which evil is abolished?  It doesn't seem to be lacking in our
existance here on Earth.  Maybe the concept of heaven is simply the
world where we have been segregated from until we can demonstrate we
are no longer a potential carrier of evil into that place?  (I don't
really believe the above it's just a fun thing to mull over in your
head)