Re: Evidence of God

On 2 Dec 2003 20:58:28 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Al Evan), Message
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy Goat) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Al Evan) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> 
>> > Klein,
>> >    You are quibbling about the meaning of words:  Do athiests
>> > "disbelieve" in God, or do they merely suffer from a '..lack of
>> > belief..' in Him?  This, to me, is 'much ado about nothing.'
>> >    Does the jury who finds a defendant guilty 'disblieve' his defense
>> > or do they 'lack belief' in his defense?  What's the difference? 
>> > Either way the jury logically finds the defendant guilty, and he is
>> > punished by the law.
>> >    I get the impression, from your statements, that you seem to think
>> > that you escape the need to argue that God does not exist (i.e., to
>> > prove that statement logically) because somehow you seem to think you
>> > are not making a positive statement of disbelief.
>> >    You're wrong! 'Lack of belief' and 'disbelief' are the same thing.
>> 
>> Let's try a different example.
>> 
>> Suppose God didn't command you to write what you just wrote. This
>> would mean that when you wrote it, you were not obeying God. Correct?
>> 
>> Does that mean you were disobeying God?
>> 
>> Are "not obeying" and "disobeying" the same thing?
>> 
>> --Billy
>
>Billy,
>       God does not command me to write what I just wrote. 


Whoopsises...


1 Thessalonians 5 (KJV)

 18   In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God 
      in Christ Jesus concerning you.

> However,
>He has given me the ability to think and to express myself. 
>Therefore, when I write "X", it is my own expression of my own
>thought; and, because I received these abilities-- to think and
>express myself--through my creator, I am obeying His Will when I use
>them.

"God" pulls the strings and the puppet moves.

>       God does command that I use whatever ability He has given me to
>do good and not evil. 

By definition, anything "God" commands (rapine, genocide) is good.

> However, even that command is tempered by my
>ability to comprehend and express--remember, while He is a Just and
>Rightous God, He is also a Forgiving God.

Three unrepentant and casual lies.

>       Therefore, the answer to your question is, "Yes! "not obeying"
>and "disobeying" are the same thing.

You are welcome to your 'freedom' in your skin tight slave chains.
         

   
             Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
               and
          SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

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