Re: Abortion

In talk.philosophy.humanism Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "David V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> Huh? Where did "ideals" come in anywhere?

> "as a society we make a statement that we value the murderer's life more
> than that of his/her victim[s]."

> That's a philosophical statement of belief, and, as such, cannot be a lie.

It may not be a lie, but it is an unsubstantiated statement.

In addition, the analogy is wrong. (Most analogies are.)

When people are opposing the death penalty they are saying that a person 
has a right not to be killed by the state. They would probably agree 
that a fetus shouldn't be killed by the state.

A person that is pro-choice is saying that the state doesn't have a 
right to punish a woman for having an abortion. And, the state doesn't 
have a right to punish a woman for getting pregnant. And, the state 
doesn't have a right to punish a woman for giving birth to a child.

-- 
   Ron