Re: Evidence of God

stoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:13:37 -0800, "David V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Message ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in alt.atheism;
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> >Al Evan wrote:
> >> 
> >> Atheism is the disbelief in god.....
> >
> >When are you morons going to get it right? You and others 
> >have been told thousands of times - *EACH* - that Atheism is 
> >a lack of belief in gods, not a disbelief. Pay attention.
> 
> They can't.  They're told time after time the world is a binary one and
> are unable to grasp the world is, at least, trinary.
>          
> 
>    
>              Stoney
> "Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
>                and
>           SCAMPERMEISTER!"
> 
> When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
> When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
> When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
> /end humour alert
> 
> alt.atheism military veteran #11
> {so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}


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Klein wrote:  "...Atheism is 
a lack of belief in gods, not a disbelief. Pay attention."

Klein,
   You are quibbling about the meaning of words:  Do athiests
"disbelieve" in God, or do they merely suffer from a '..lack of
belief..' in Him?  This, to me, is 'much ado about nothing.'
   Does the jury who finds a defendant guilty 'disblieve' his defense
or do they 'lack belief' in his defense?  What's the difference? 
Either way the jury logically finds the defendant guilty, and he is
punished by the law.
   I get the impression, from your statements, that you seem to think
that you escape the need to argue that God does not exist (i.e., to
prove that statement logically) because somehow you seem to think you
are not making a positive statement of disbelief.
   You're wrong! 'Lack of belief' and 'disbelief' are the same thing.
As in the jury example above, either statement is derived from the
same evidence, and leads to the same conclusion.  In other words, "I
say 'tomatoe', and you say 'tomato.'  But, they are the same thing.
   Furthermore, why do you say that you (an athiest) "...lack belief
in gods" in you response to me?  I never argued that there are 'gods.'
 Where did you get the idea that I do?