Re: Evolution: A Legoist Perspective

Padraic Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:16:11 +0000 (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John
> Thomas Grisham) wrote:
> 
> >Padraic Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:13:57 +0000 (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> (David W. Robertson) wrote:
> >> 
> >> >http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/dwr/d2.html
> >> >
> >> >The title of my essay is "Evolution: A Legoist Perspective".
> >> 
> >> Note misspelling of "legoist" (legioist) in the second line.
> >> 
> >> A theory based on Lego! I love it!
> >> 
> >> Naturally, your first stumbling block around here will be your
> >> assumption that Gods exist. 
> >
> >Actually, he wrote "if God exists" 
> 
> True. The whole tenor of the essay seems to presume "yes, Gods exist",
> however.
> 
> >I suggest that the line be changed to "if a superior natural entity
> >exists".  This gets us passed the "supernatural" poppycock. Under the
> >hypothesis that a deity could exist, it would be "natural" by
> >definition. "Supernatural" for all practical purposes dictates
> >non-existence.
> 
> Or may not - who knows? But that's rather the point: if one accepts
> that Gods are "supernatural", then people like you will assume that
> they're nonexistent figments. If one accepts that Gods are "superior
> natural entities", then people who believe in Gods will be put out
> because they dón't believe in "superior natural entities", but rather
> in "supernatural" entities.
> 
> >For instance, when we speak of UFO's, we speak of them as
> >"supernatural" because they are NOT accepted as existing. 
> 
> For what it's worth, I've never thought of them as "supernatural". And
> I do not accept that supernatural = nonexistent.

I didn't write the definitions.

Supernatural by definition is not natural, it's something else.
Science always adhers to Naturalism in some form. Therefore, you can't
logically have science and the supernatural in any co-existing
context.

In science, the supernatural does not exist... it can not exist under
Naturalism. Any evidence to anything supernatural would be an anomoly
and thereby ignored. What puts out people who believe in God is that
science labels their conceptualizations as Supernatural, therefore
clearly anomolies and ignores them.

Any evidence of the supernatural can not be scientific evidence due to
Naturalism. Ergo, supernatural = non-existent.


JTG  12/02/03 

> 
> Padraic.
> 
> la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu
> ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu.