Re: RR Finally comes out

David Iain Greig wrote:
> Frank Reichenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Copied from the thread, "seen evidence of Holocaust in museums?"
>> (Hasn't shown up in Google just yet)
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>>>> What is the theory of evolution?
>>>
>>> Gee, you think I should evade this and go running away like you do
>>> when asked direct questions about your position on the Holocaust
>>> and the scientific method? If I answer this question, does that
>>> mean you will finally attempt to answer the questions I've been
>>> pestering you about:
>> What
>>> is the scientific method? Did the Holocaust occur as commonly
>>> believed?
>>
>> See, you use the word 'believed'!
>>
>>>
>>> No? I didn't think so. If you are anything, it is predictable.
>>>
>>> Nevermind, I am not afraid to answer a direct question.
>>>
>>> The theory of evolution is the theory that all organisms descended
>>> from
>> one
>>> or a few common ancestors. Usually the question is asked in
>>> reference to Darwin's theory, which not only proposes common
>>> descent, it offers a mechanism as well. So the theory of evolution
>>> by means of natural
>> selection
>>> is the theory that evolution is accomplished by the action of
>>> natural selection acting on random mutations of genomes in
>>> populations of organisms.
>>>
>>> My position on the Holocaust is that the German Nazi rulers of
>>> 1933-1945 developed a deliberate policy of genocide of Jews
>>> throughout the occupied territories. By 1945 they had very nearly
>>> carried it out through a program of murder and starvation,
>>> resulting in approximately 6,000,000 dead Jews.
>>
>>> Your turn.
>>
>> Records are quite incomplete and not clear on the matter.  These
>> numbers have been changing all the time quite radically.
>
> The numbers have been consistent in the millions since 1945.  I don't
> think any historian would argue otherwise.
>
>
>> The propaganda on the
>> matter is is of a gigantic proportion and deriving mostly from
>> American(Jewish reports and sources (not German's that is).
>
> Most of the documentation used to develop the body counts is German.
> The Germans themselves have the Institute for NS-Crimes who research
> the Holocaust and agree with the work done by others.
>
>
>> 'Experts' at
>> the Nürnberg trials testified they had 'evidence' that soap was
>> produced from human bodies at the camps, as well as lampshades of
>> their skin (both were physically presented on the tapes). Now, this
>> is not accepted as being true anymore.  There were also rumours that
>> human hair was used to fill upp pillows.
>
> Human hair was apparently collected and used for felt.  The hair was
> washed and dried in the attics of the Crematoria.  The Russians found
> huge amounts of human hair when they captured the death camps.
>
>> Ever heard of Russian concentration camps where German's were taken
>> shortly after WWII, history books are in complete silence about
>> that. Any idea how many died there and in what manner?
>
> A lot; a friend's father was in the Waffen-SS and captured at
> Stalingrad. He was held in a camp in Siberia for a decade, only
> released when it was thought he had terminal TB.  He doesn't talk
> about it.  Almost nobody captured at Stalingrad came back.
>
> However, Soviet treatment of German prisoners (or, in the West, Allied
> treatment of German prisoners) can not be used to somehow make up
> for German crimes.   The Soviets killed millions in the name of
> Communism; how does this justify killing 6 million Jews, as well
> as millions of Poles and Russians?
>

It doesn't.

Nor should we forget the treatment of Russian POW's by the Germans.  Both
sides seem to have been particularly brutal to one another in the Ost.

There is a brief mention of Russian prisonsers in The Great Escape, and also
Escape from Colditz.  In both cases they are described as horribly
malnourished and mistreated.  The British officers who wrote the two books
were quite happy they were in the British RAF POW camp.

RR, I knew you were an idiot.  I didn't realize you were a Nazi sympathizer
too.  In your spare time, just reflect on the fact that a few million people
got together not all that long ago, and walked all over Europe, just to kill
these people you like so much.

Go to hell.

Chris