Re: Social Darwinism; was: So Long Judge Moore, We'll Miss You

ambrose searle wrote:

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>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:02:43 +0000 (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (ambrose searle) wrote:
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>> >Arne Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> >> (Darwin was also wrong on numerous
>> >> accounts),
>> >
>> >That's the admission that apparently many of your ilk cannot bring
>> >themselves to admit. This was the beginning problem that led to this
>> >present thread: when Lechevalier said that Darwin held no theory of
>> >Social Darwinism.
>> 
>> Can you ever say anything at all without lying?
> 
> Here's the link where LeChevalier said there is "no such theory" as
> Darwin's theory of Social Darwinism.
> 
> 
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6bvtrvgcjr1j1polpriuolmfjqjnj2nhj9%404ax.com&output


Social Darwinianism was a creation of Herbert Spencer.  Not Darwin.
Presented a copy of Spencer's first book, Darwin claimed to not be able to 
make heads nor tails of Spencer's theories.


A polite way of saying bullshit.



Cheerful Charlie











> 
>> >Why then do posters of your ilk bend over backwards to say that Darwin
>> >had nothing to do with the theory that races are superior or inferior
>> >as a result of natural selection?
>> 
>> Because he didn't.  It was not his theory,
> 
> Whose theories are contained in the Descent of Man? Thomas
> Jefferson's?
> 
>> nor was it a scientific
>> theory at all.
> 
> You'll get no argument from me on that. Darwin thought it was
> scientific, however.
> 
>> He may or may not have agreed with parts of it, but it
>> was not his theory.  It is really very simple.
> 
> You'll get no argument from me that people borrow other thinkers
> ideas. President Clinton claimed to be, at many occasions, simply
> putting forth the ideas of John F. Kennedy. However, that doesn't mean
> that those ideas are not also Bill Clinton's ideas.
> 
> Jesus said "Love your neighbor as yourself," but since that is a quote
> from the book of Leviticus, you would argue that it is inappropriate
> to say that Jesus held that view.
> 
>> That fact says nothing
>> good or bad about Darwin; it is just simply the truth.  The truth is
>> not something you care too much for.
> 
> You don't seem to care much about the very words that Darwin himself
> wrote:
> 
> http://teachers.sduhsd.k12.ca.us/gstimson/socialdarwin.htm
> 
> Searle

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Cheerful Charlie