Re: seen evidence of Holocaust in museums?

Mitchell Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:45:24 +0000 (UTC), David Iain Greig
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Matt Silberstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In talk.origins  I read this message from
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bigdakine):
>>> 
>>>>>At least one prominent member of the American holocaust denial band o'
>>>>>nutbars is Jewish.  His motives are murky.  (Reference from Shermer's
>>>>>_Why People Believe Weird Things_.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>One possibility is  Chomsky.
>>> 
>>> Does he really?
>>
>>No, he doesn't.   But some people like to say he does; it lets them
>>marginalize him.
> 
> Chomsky has equivocated on the issue and given intellectual support to
> Holocaust deniers beyond advocating their right to free speech, which
> has been his cover.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

>  He has praised their scholarship, referred to
> their libels as "findings," voched for there "liberialism," etc.
> 
> Chomsky is marginalized because he has marginalized himself.  Chomsky
> is the nastiest, most intellectually dishonest US political figure
> with any following to speak of, ouside of public office.

Rush Limbaugh.  Ann Coulter.  G. Gordon Liddy.

> I don't
> believe I have ever read anything he's written or heard him speak
> where he did not couch a lie.

Like all his lies about East Timor?

> He makes the most outrageous
> accusations, with Lyndon Larouche levels of evidence - last time I
> heard him on CSAN he talked about how we were setting up "secret death
> chambers" in Guantanamo. 

Well, wow.  A quick Google search indicates they put out contracts
to construct death chambers in Gitmo in the summer.  I didn't know
about it; did you?  Knowing how the Bush folk plan to conduct 
secret military trials, which could very well lead to their 
executions, I don't find the term 'secret death chambers' 
too outrageous a term.   Maybe if people knew about it, they'd 
object.  

> His evidence were unnamed "European"
> newspapers. 

Because the main U.S. media are all bootlicking the Bush 
mania for secrecy.

> The man constantly accuses people of mass murder and the
> like with paranoid-style evidence, and this man wimpers like a
> persecuted puppy when people object to comparing Isrealis to Nazis.

I think we had a thread about the latter here some time ago, in 
fact.

It's sort of depressing to see how full of shit you are, and
how easy it is to show it.

--D.