Re: seen evidence of Holocaust in museums?

Jim Balter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roadrunner wrote:
>> "Susan S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>In talk.origins  I read this message from "Glenn"
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>I don't believe that is necessarily true. Questioning the accuracy of
>> 
>> census
>> 
>>>>figures or not knowing does not equate to Jew-hater. And on the surface
>>>>of what you said, my inclination would be not to believe anything Nazis
>>>>"said".
>> 
>>>>It is a sensitive issue, and the ones sensitive about the Holocaust
>>>>should also be sensitive toward others, don't you agree? Just because
>>>>this horrid act was committed is no excuse not to.
>>>>
>>>>I have no reason to doubt the claim, and am not a Jew-hater.
>>>>But you appear to have overreacted, unless you are aware of
>>>>the history of this poster that I am unaware of.
>>>>
>>>>It's just that whenever the Holocaust is brought up,
>>>>someone soon starts yelling Jew-hater.
>>>
>>>But only because the Holocaust was caused by Jew haters. Remember
>>>that part?
>> 
>> That is not necesarily true.  Now who are the only ones who got 
>> richer and richer because of wars, right bankers.
> 
> It looks like DIG owes people an apology.

I am having difficulty parsing the above thread.   While I would
be interested in exactly what the 'bankers' comment means, I still
don't see him denying the Holocaust *happened*.

Eichmann wasn't an anti-Semite.  He was just a drone - which is
maybe even more disturbing than if he was a rabid 'der Sturmer'-
type of Jew hater.

I am somewhat at a loss, however, to understand how anyone 
could defend the train of events leading up to the mass murder 
of the Jews in Europe as anything *but* caused by Jew-haters.
The whole ideology of Jew as 'foreign' or 'subhuman', as a 'disease'
or 'louse' on the social body... unless you're going to claim that
there were people who liked Jews but saw their extermination as
some kind of horrible painful duty to save Germany?  There may have
been a few people like that but they certainly weren't in charge...

Certainly the banks and others profited from the 'Aryanization'
of Jewish firms in Germany and elsewhere, but I don't see them
doing anything but taking advantage of a process that they didn't
start.   

Again, while I don't understand what he means (unless he's implying
the Holocaust was caused by people who hated bankers (who were 
presumably Jewish)), he's not actually saying anything denying the
Holocaust, or that 6 million Jews died in it, or that about 1 million
Jews died in Auschwitz.

In any event, my original comments were somewhat obviously made at a 
point in time, and still apply.  RR had not (and has not, to my 
knowledge, yet) denied the Jews were subjected to mass murder by
the Nazis.   I am curious to know how you concluded therefore I
owe anyone an apology.  Since you are obviously well read on this
thread, I again urge you to provide a cite to a post where RR
has done so - defend your thesis, sir.  Or are you incapable of
doing so?  

--D.