Re: Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN

On 10/29/03 10:49 PM, in article
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>>>>>>>>> Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was
> admitted
>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously
> rigid
>>>> neck"
>>>>>>>>> which two physicians described as being consistent with
>>> attempted
>>>>>>>>> strangulation,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there
>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>> necessarily have to be any other injuries.  Afterall, this is
> a
>>> true
>>>>>> crime
>>>>>>>> ng.  Personally, I don't have enough information to know
> whether
>> a
>>>>> crime
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> committed that night or not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> td
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could
>> have
>>>>> been
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could
> he
>>> not
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> succeeded, given the size difference?  And if he wanted her
> dead,
>> a
>>>> few
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable.  I
> suppose
>>> he
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to
> the
>>>>> effect
>>>>>>> that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them
>>> having
>>>> a
>>>>>> huge fight prior to his going to work that evening.  That terri
> had
>>> had
>>>>> her
>>>>>> hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money
> she
>>>> spent
>>>>>> on it.  One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it,
> that
>>>> after
>>>>>> he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad
> Michael
>>> was
>>>>>> about the money she'd spent that day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But was he physically violent, does anyone know?  I know a lot of
>> people
>>>>> who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a
> lot
>>> that
>>>>> might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm
>> before
>>>> they
>>>>> hit anyone.  The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he
> might
>>> do)
>>>>> *was* Michael?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her
> at
>>> all
>>>>> for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad
> he
>>>> was",
>>>>> but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle
>>> *him*
>>>>> ;>)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know.  I mean most of us
>> are
>>>> here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort.  And I haven't
>> seen
>>> or
>>>> heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's
>> going
>>>> on with this situation, who's side to believe.
>>>> 
>>>> That silent treatment would drive me nuts.  We always hash it out, I
>> think
>>>> that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many
>>> years.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Me too.  Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour or
>> so,
>>> in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent
>> treatment
>>> as a weapon sucks.  But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so I
>>> guess it half-assed works for them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, we do the stomping off too, but not the long term silent treatment.
>> Maybe we enjoy the 'making up' part too much to carry out the silent
>> treatment?  ;-)
>> 
>> Ya know, I have some friends who actually seem to thrive on that silent
>> treatment thing.  It's like they have so little in common that the silent
>> treatment takes some of the pressure off having to relate or something.
> 
> I know a woman who lives in the same (thankfully large) house with her
> husband, but probably doesn't speak with him twice in a week (he's a serious
> alchoholic).  She's resigned to it, makes her life out of her kids and grand
> kids, but my god - that's one of the marriages that makes me come home and
> kiss John "for no reason".  He just looks up and says "Somebody's husband
> being an asshole today?"
> 
> I swear when I took up horseshoeing I didn't sign on to be therapist to the
> world...I think it's that Freudian psychoanalysis thing, where the patient
> is on a couch where he can't see the therapist - I'm bent over trimming with
> my back to people, and they tell me things...that often I really wish they
> hadn't. ;>)

I typically use, 'you have me confused with someone who cares'. It works
wonders.

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>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> td
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
>>>>>>>>> 1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer
> ruled
>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>> such a probe.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's
>> collapse
>>>>> casts
>>>>>>>>> doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to
> me
>>> if
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> were her husband I would want to find out what happened to
>> her."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the
> strangulation
>>>>>>>>> testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her
>> trachea
>>>>>>>>> damaged.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Terri's collapse
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990--
>> the
>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>> of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in
>> the
>>>> hall
>>>>>>>>> at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face
>> down
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
>>>>> "lifeless"
>>>>>>>>> and called 911.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back,"
>> Schindler
>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>> WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews]
> that
>>> when
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing
>> his
>>>>>>>>> story?"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler
> first,
>>> who
>>>>>>>>> then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment
>>> complex
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when
> he
>>>>> arrived
>>>>>>>>> on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath
> her
>>> and
>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>> hands up by her neck.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he
> heard
>> a
>>>>>>>>> "gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lie detector test?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in
>>> which
>>>>>>>>> Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King
>> opened
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie
> detector
>>>> test.
>>>>>>>>> Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right
>> now."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri
> last
>>>> night
>>>>>>>>> and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
>>>>> "ornery."
>>>>>>>>> He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she
>> was
>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>> to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> tug
>>> of
>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>> over Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> Diana Lynne is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.
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