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"tinydancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Cricket" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "tinydancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "Cricket" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > "tinydancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > "Cricket" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > "tinydancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > > > snipped> > > > > > > > > > > Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > > hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid > > > neck" > > > > > > > > which two physicians described as being consistent with > > attempted > > > > > > > > strangulation, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there > wouldn't > > > > > > > necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a > > true > > > > > crime > > > > > > > ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether > a > > > > crime > > > > > > was > > > > > > > committed that night or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > td > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could > have > > > > been > > > > > an > > > > > > accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he > > not > > > > > have > > > > > > succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, > a > > > few > > > > > more > > > > > > minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose > > he > > > > > could > > > > > > have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the > > > > effect > > > > > > that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them > > having > > > a > > > > > huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had > > had > > > > her > > > > > hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she > > > spent > > > > > on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that > > > after > > > > > he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael > > was > > > > > about the money she'd spent that day. > > > > > > > > But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of > people > > > > who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a lot > > that > > > > might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm > before > > > they > > > > hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he might > > do) > > > > *was* Michael? > > > > > > > > I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her at > > all > > > > for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad he > > > was", > > > > but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle > > *him* > > > > ;>) > > > > > > > > > I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of us > are > > > here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't > seen > > or > > > heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's > going > > > on with this situation, who's side to believe. > > > > > > That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I > think > > > that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many > > years. > > > > > > > Me too. Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour or > so, > > in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent > treatment > > as a weapon sucks. But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so I > > guess it half-assed works for them. > > > > Yeah, we do the stomping off too, but not the long term silent treatment. > Maybe we enjoy the 'making up' part too much to carry out the silent > treatment? ;-) > > Ya know, I have some friends who actually seem to thrive on that silent > treatment thing. It's like they have so little in common that the silent > treatment takes some of the pressure off having to relate or something. I know a woman who lives in the same (thankfully large) house with her husband, but probably doesn't speak with him twice in a week (he's a serious alchoholic). She's resigned to it, makes her life out of her kids and grand kids, but my god - that's one of the marriages that makes me come home and kiss John "for no reason". He just looks up and says "Somebody's husband being an asshole today?" I swear when I took up horseshoeing I didn't sign on to be therapist to the world...I think it's that Freudian psychoanalysis thing, where the patient is on a couch where he can't see the therapist - I'm bent over trimming with my back to people, and they tell me things...that often I really wish they hadn't. ;>) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > td > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the > > > > > > > > 1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled > > > > against > > > > > > > > such a probe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's > collapse > > > > casts > > > > > > > > doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me > > if > > > I > > > > > > > > were her husband I would want to find out what happened to > her." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation > > > > > > > > testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her > trachea > > > > > > > > damaged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terri's collapse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- > the > > > > night > > > > > > > > of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in > the > > > hall > > > > > > > > at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face > down > > > on > > > > > > > > the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was > > > > "lifeless" > > > > > > > > and called 911. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," > Schindler > > > > told > > > > > > > > WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that > > when > > > I > > > > > > > > showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing > his > > > > > > > > story?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, > > who > > > > > > > > then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment > > complex > > > as > > > > > > > > his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he > > > > arrived > > > > > > > > on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her > > and > > > > her > > > > > > > > hands up by her neck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard > a > > > > > > > > "gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lie detector test? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in > > which > > > > > > > > Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King > opened > > > the > > > > > > > > show to callers who asked tougher questions than King. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector > > > test. > > > > > > > > Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right > now." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last > > > night > > > > > > > > and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed > > > > "ornery." > > > > > > > > He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she > was > > > > prior > > > > > > > > to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the > tug > > of > > > > war > > > > > > > > over Terri Schindler-Schiavo. > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35305 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Related special offers: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Killer Angel': Exposing racist convictions of Planned > > > Parenthood's > > > > > > > > Margaret Sanger > > > > > > > > http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=370 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The book that terrifies the abortion industry > > > > > > > > http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=766 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Diana Lynne is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This article's URL is: > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35304 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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