Re: Sunspots...

fãhç wrote:

> "Stuart Grey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > <repetative jibber-jabber snipped>
>
>
> You are basing your ridiculous communist conspiracy theory on a single paper
> that used weather data from a single measurement point in a remote area of
> Ireland, instead of the data from thousands of points around the globe and
> satellites

Well, that is part of the problem with your argument, isn't
it? The upper air data doesn't agree with the surface temperature
data that P.D. Jones claims refutes the Thejll & Lassen work.

In fact, if you have an unbiased scientist look at the raw
data, the first thing he'd do is toss out the surface data
that came from points that was once rural, and later on
has become warmed by urban development.  Once you do that,
the surface and upper air temperatures are again in agreement,
and the temperatures are much lower than the Jones paper
claims. So the papers that Jones published to debunk
Thejll and Lassen has itself been debunked.

There was also a paper done by the Irish Armagh observatory,
using their data, and it shows 1) solar and global temperature
agreement from 1800 up to 2000. 2) The well debunked temperature
spike of the Jones data was not there.
http://www.intellicast.com/DrDewpoint/Library/1208/

> compiled into a global climate computer model that has been
> tested for accuracy against historic data.  

When solar data is compared against global temperature
data, you can explain 71% of the warming the earth has
undergone as due to the sun. When you model the interaction
between the upper and lower  atmosphere properly, you can
explain all of the global warming as due to the sun.
http://www.cseg.ca/conferences/2000/1029.PDF


> You have proven that you don't
> know the first thing about data collection and the design of experiments.

Actually, my graduate degree is in physics.
My undergraduate degrees are in physics,
and the other is in Electrical engineering.
I am a Principle Investigator doing Independent
Research and Development at a major corporation.
I am also working on my thesis as part of a research
project team.

So far, I've gotten three awards from the government
for some of the original work I've done. I don't
offer this as an appeal to authority, but as
evidence that I've had peer review and was judge
worthy for some of my other work, and this
refutes your claim that I "don't know the first
thing about data collection and the design of
experiments". It is what I do, all day long.


> Better tighten your tin foil hat, the commies are coming!

:-)