Re: 17,000 deaths a year from the cold

"George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Ian St. John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > Except one - genocide:  The brutality of the Hussein regime to his own
> > > people, as evidenced by the hundreds of thousands found in mass graves
> > > throughout the country.
> >
> > Sorry but that amounts to total crap. Not even his enemies think him
> capable
> > of killing 'hundreds of thousands'. of enemies. I expect you are
referring
> > to the mass burial of soldiers killed in the Iran/Iraq war, fueled by
the
> > U.S. and they would only amount to tens of thousands. There was also a
> > civilian uprising ( of Shiites in Basra?) after the first gulf war that
> > might have hundreds of dead buried. No 'blame' attaches to putting down
a
> > rebellion, just as no claim of 'purity' attaches to being a rebel. Civil
> > wars are outside of such consideration.
> >
> >
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> So, international law, according to St. John the wise, says that its ok to
> commit genocide if it occurs during a civil war.

Non-sequitor. Genocide isn't under discussion. The Iran/Iraq war was a
normal conflict, and casualtues are normal in war.

> Thanks for clarifying that
> for the rest of us.

Rather, piss on you for trying to misrepresent the conflict.

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> http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2003/dapril/17_massgrave.html

Misrepresentation again of deaths which occurred in the Iran/Iraq war. It is
not known which side launched the gas attack. The Iraqis might jhave,
thinking that the Iranians still invested the town. Or the Iranians were
known to be using this type of assault at that period. The evidence is
equivocal, but becomes 'fact' in the deluusions of Boy George here.

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> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_779970.html?menu

"It is not yet known how or why these people died"

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> http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2003/s881169.htm

So there are mass graves. That was never in question. There are mass graves
everywhere, including the U.S. God knows how many Civil War graves would bee
found if the local soil was as dry as the deserts of Iraq. The question is
the origin of the casualties and assertions from political enemies do not
carry any forensaic weight.

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> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/05/69521.html
"There are almost certainly mass graves in Turkey, especially in the Kurdish
south-east, but since the regime there hasn't been overthrown but still sits
confidently in the midst of NATO, these have not been bought to light."

I thought you were trying to claim SAafddam made alll the maass graves. Now
you are attacking the Turkish government?

Bwahahahahaha Your 'proof' suffers from a lack of substance. Try tapering
off on the stupid pills.


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> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92237,00.html

The main point here is that Inforce is only in the preliminary assessment
stage and hasn't a clue as to the origin of the bodies at this point.

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> http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/photogallery/gallery_11/my07.html

"A blindfolded victim found in a mass grave in Musayib, 75 KM SW of Baghdad.
The victims are thought to be from among some 2,000 persons reported missing
after the 1991 uprising against the Iraqi government"

Funnily enough, treason against your country is usually solved by firing
squad in the U.S. as well. I will agree that as the head of the country,
Saddam could have commuted the sentences, but I fail to see why such
wholesale interference with justice would be rationalized.

So far, there is evidence of a civil war (2000 graves around Basra from
rebel Shiites) and various unkown graves, most of whom will probably stem
from the war which was known to have kill large numbers. Unlike assholes
like George, I'll wait for the evidence.