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Re: Any anti-abortion atheists?





"robpar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:34:28 -0500, "Osprey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"robpar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:33:38 -0600, Erica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (robpar) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 1 Dec 2003 15:10:08 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erica) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >The fact that I did so through excessive sarcasm is my bad. I just
got
> >> >> >slightly steamed, is all. But robparr's tone didn't warrent it, so
I'm
> >> >> >sorry.
> >> >> >
> >> >>   I tend to be very sarcastic when flaming a so called Pro-Lifer.
> >Which you
> >> >> appeared to be with the religious bigots. In using their lies about
a
> >near
> >> >> full
> >> >> term abortion. Which is only used when there is no hope of saving
the
> >baby,
> >> >> and
> >> >> the mothers life is at stake.
> >> >
> >> >I'm personally pro-life for my own choice, but pro-choice otherwise,
if
> >> >that makes sense.
> >>
> >> Makes perfect sense, I share that position, and it is the most widely
> >accepted
> >> position among the Pro-Choice.
> >>
> >> > I am also woefully underinformed on the subject and
> >> >reacting on pure emotion (not that this ever stopped anyone on usenet
> >> >from jumping right into a discussion, mind you). No lies, just
reacting
> >> >very subjectively on less than adequate data.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you for your first hand information. You are indeed operating
from
> >> >a position that is better informed than mine. I will therefore bow out
> >> >of the discussion and toddle over to google to do a bit of research.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers
> >> >
> >> >Erica
> >> Hang around, but try to avoid making anything personal. These
> >> pro-lofe/pro-choice debates can become very heated.
> >>  However the current Pro-lifers posting here are rather lame.Maybe some
of
> >the
> >> sharper ones will join in.
> >
> >Hmm, lets talk about this for a moment.
> >
> >First off, I would like to point out that robpar has completely ignored
my
> >postings where I provided rebuttals, with sources.
> >
>   Oh really,  I suppose that I missed them. of course a christian that
ignores
> the Bible as a source has no idea what a source is.
> >Second
> >
> >Robpar says "These pro-lofe/pro-choice debates can become very heated."
> >
> >And in the VERY NEXT SENTENCE  Robpar says,
> >
> >"However the current Pro-lifers posting here are rather lame."
> >
> >Could that be one of the reasons they become heated?
> >
>   Actually they become heated when the pro-slavery  faction comes up with
fresh
> lies, instead of the same old lame shit you and Dorothy comes up with.

No, they become heated when people like you make comments like you have made
in this post, and in others.

Such as...

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"And oppose the efforts of you self
righteous bigots to force you opinions on them. You are one more evil son of
abitch."


"I just believe you are a stupid self righteous bigot, that hates women."


> >
> >
> >
> >>   As always study both sides of a question and make your own decision.
Go
> >to
> >> Center for disease control  and check out their info on abortions.
Better
> >than
> >> google.
> >>    More back ground on my self, we raised 2 really good children have 5
> >grand
> >> kids. Came close to being great grand parents last year, unfortunately
the
> >> pregnancy went sour and had to be terminated.
> >>   My sister in law is head surgical nurse in a local hospital, that
does
> >all the
> >> abortions for Family Planning. My cousin runs the family planning
center,
> >> another cousin is leader for the local operation rescue.  He is trying
to
> >get me
> >> to return to the church. So I am inside on all fronts on the question.
> >Best way
> >> to describe my position is Pro-choice with having the child the best
> >choice.
> >> It`s the womans choice,  if she chooses wrong she pays.
> >>   The cruelest thing that can happen to a child is to be unwanted.
> >
> >The cruelest thing that can happen to a child is for the mother to act
> >irresponsible, bring the unwanted child into this world, only to butcher
it.
> >
>   That`s correct bringing a UNWANTED child into the world.

Why did she allow herself to get into the situation to begin with?
Or don't you care about reckless behaviors?


Rather than
> terminating the pregnancy early.

Killing a human being

>Giving birth to a unwanted child is cruel.

Giving birth is to give life

Abortion is to take life





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