Re: Any anti-abortion atheists?

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:49:20 -0500, "Osprey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>"Morbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > > On 29 Nov 2003 22:42:05 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Dufour)
>> >  wrote:
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>> > > >I've been wondering about this for the last few days.  Are there any
>> > > >well known people around who are both atheists and are against
>> > > >abortion?  Thanks.
>> > >
>> > >    Not to my knowledge, I know many christians that are pro choice.
>> > > Personally I abhor abortions. but support a womans right to her
>choice.
>> > > Freedom of speech would allow the vendors to advertise contraceptives
>and
>> >  reduce
>> > > the need for abortions. Unfortunately the self righteous christian
>bigots
>> >  have
>> > > managed to censor such advertising. Only one of a laundry list of
>> >  oppressions
>> > > supported by the self righteous bigots in christianity.
>> > >    I don`t believe it would be possible for an atheist to support the
>Pro
>> >  Life
>> > > anti-abortion movement. Atheist usually support individual freedoms.
>And
>> > > Pro-life means a restriction on the freedom of women, and medicine.
>> >
>> > Do you always support the practicing behaviors you abhore?  If so, why
>> > abhore them.  Just accept them and don't be a two face about what you
>think
>> > is wrong.  Don't flaunt a morality that you really don't believe in.
>>
>> Dorothy... I think you're missing the point.  I, for example, abhore
>> abortion.  But neither you, nor I, nor God, nor Jesus has the
>> authority to tell a woman what to do with her own body (And yes...
>> Those cells in her womb ARE her own body).
>
>Wrong
>
>Our bodies were given to us through God.

Bull shit there is no god.

> It is our responsibility and our duty to take care of our bodies and protect.

Yes it`s your duty to take care of your own body,  but not to force others to do
what you believe is correct.

>A woman is responsible for protecting the life for which she is about to
>give.
>
 A woman is responsible for her own body, and her own decisions including
whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. It`s none of your business. 
>
>So Atheists and pro-choice
>> people don't see abortion as noble, or proper, or the "right" thing to
>> do... But we simply CANNOT decide for the women.  It's their burden,
>> their choice.  All we can do is promote contraception, education,
>> awareness, other alternatives (Such as adoption), and support women
>> with whatever choice they make...  End of story
>
>I agree with most of that; however, I would never support the choice of
>abortion.
>
  But strongly oppose the woman having the right to make that choice?
Mind your own damn business, your mythical character Jesus had some thing to say
to you. Remove the plank from your own eye, before you worry about the mote in
another eye. If you were a christian instead of being a self righteous bigot you
would join the majority of pro-choice christians.