Re: Any anti-abortion atheists?

Craig Chilton wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:58:53 GMT,
> "Dorothy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >    One does not have to be a person who ends human life to
> > understand that ending human life is wrong.
> 
>     ALL human *gametes* are huma, and alive.  And just like
> Stages 2, 3, and 4

Stage 2, 3, 4? That's what you've made up. No one else recognizes it. Why
are you simply incapable of recognizing the same facts as everyone else?

 The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology4 (pp 2-18):
 "Zygote: this cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A
 zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). Human
 development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male
 gamete or sperm ... unites with a female gamete or oocyte ... to form
 a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent
 cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."

 - Moore, K. and T.V.N. Persaud. 1998. The Developing Human: Clinically
 Oriented Embryology (6th ed.), W.B. Saunders Company,  Philadelphia.

 ; ===========================================

 Essentials of Human Embryology (pp. 1-17): "In this text, we begin our
 description of the developing human with the formation and
 differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which
 will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a
 new individual. ... Fertilization takes place in the oviduct ...
 resulting in the formation of a zygote containing a single diploid
 nucleus. Embryonic development is considered to begin at this point...
 This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero
 time point of embryonic development."

 - Larsen, W.J. 1998. Essentials of Human Embryology, Churchill
 Livingstone, New York.

 ; ===========================================

 Human Embryology & Teratology (pp. 5-55): "Fertilization is an
 important landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new,
 genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed... Fertilization
 is the procession of events that begins when a spermatozoon makes
 contact with a secondary oocyte or its investments...  The zygote ...
 is a unicellular embryo... "The ill-defined and inaccurate term
 pre-embryo, which includes the embryonic disc, is said either to end
 with the appearance of the primitive streak or ... to include
 neurulation. The term is not used in this book." (p. 55)."

 - O'Rahilly, R. and F. Muller. 1996. Human Embryology & Teratology,
 Wiley-Liss, New York.

 ; ===========================================

 When Does Human Life Begin?
 (http://www.californiaprolife.org/abortion/whendoes.html)

 "To accept the fact that, after fertilization has taken place, a new
 human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or of
 opinion. The human nature of the human being from conception to old
 age is not a metaphysical contention. It is plain experimental
 evidence."

 - Jerome L. LeJeune, French geneticist

 ; ===========================================

 When does life begin?
 (http://www.roevwade.org/upl39.html)

 "The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body
 is at the moment of conception."
 "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from
 the moment of conception."

 ; ===========================================

 When does Human Life begin?
 (http://www.physiciansforlife.ca/whendoes.html)

 ... there is a radical difference, scientifically, between parts of a
 human being that only possess "human life" and a human embryo or human
 fetus that is an actual "human being."

 ; ===========================================

 When does Life Begin?
 (http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/wdlb/wdlb.html)

 "A new individual human being begins at fertilization, when the sperm
 and ovum meet to form a single cell."

 ; ===========================================

 Where does human life begin? The Final Answer.
 (http://www.all.org/abac/cwk004.htm)

 "It is quite clear that what was known more than 100 years ago, even
 intuitively before that, is that the fusion of sperm and oocyte begins
 the life of a new individual human being."



> of the reproductive process, each one
> represents a unique *potential* person that will never be born,
> if it dies.

A gamete is not a member of the human species - unlike an embryo or fetus.

> 
>     More than a QUADRILLION of those (which is a million or
> more people who now exist on planet earth) are electively
> aborted DAILY, worldwide, by *men*.  Those men LITERALLY
> are ending human lives in those numbers.
> 
>     While YOU hypocritically look the other way.

What rubbish. You are a joke.

> 
>     (Which would be logical IF you NON-hypocritically were to
> be intelligent enough to realize that the ONLY human life having
> intrisic value -- both per the Bible and our laws -- is that of PEOPLE.
> Who have been BORN.)
> 
>                    -- Craig Chilton    [EMAIL PROTECTED]