Re: What is SCIENCE?

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:27:18 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:51:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (robpar)
>wrote:
>
>>On 2 Nov 2003 13:18:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Still) wrote:
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>>>robpar wrote...
>>>> >
>>>> >Hmmm....where did you get that engineering degree again...?
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>>    same place that he usta be a atheist in his on mind. face it this
>>>> is another lying ass hole bible thumper.
>>>
>>>Dude, are you the same person who claims that all ex-atheists are
>>>liars?  If so, please don't reply anymore.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>No, scratch that.  Answer these few questions:  You seem to be afraid
>>>of ex-atheists.  If so, why are you so afraid?  If not, why do you
>>>always think ex-atheists are liars?  Is it impossible for someone to
>>>change their mind?  I have an open mind, even now as a theist.  If I
>>>was given rational reasons to go back to believing in atheism, then I
>>>would do that.  I hope atheists keep open minds, too.  Do you have an
>>>open mind?
>>>
>>>Dan
>>
>>  No idiot there are no such thing as an EXatheist. Anyone intelligent
>>enough to reject the brainwashing is too intelligent, to fall for the
>>superstitious nonsense of religion. However the number of idiots that
>>claim to be former atheist are legion. 
>
>As an atheist myself, I'd strongly disagree with this.

Oh really? Why do you use the theist strawman tactic so often while
claiming to be atheist?  Are do you just have the theist mentality and
unable to understand a simple statement? 
  What part of " Anyone intelligent enough to reject the brainwashing
is too intelligent, to fall for the superstitious nonsense of
religion" 
did you not understand?

> ALL theists were atheists at some point.

Of course they were, but few ever claim to have been atheist. It`s
those that proselytize claiming to be ex atheist that I call liars.
 As well as those that claim to be atheist, while supporting the
position of theist.

> Either they were atheists as a kid and
>then were brainwashed or what-ever or they converted as adults. What I
>WOULD agree with is that someone who knew of god AND knew why the
>arguments for him are bogus would never convert unless they went
>insane. But that's not all atheists. Many are atheist simply by
>default and, given the right opportunity, would become theists in a
>heartbeat.
>
  And you hope to give them the opportunity? By making atheist appear
to be wrong.