Re: The light turns green

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer) writes:
>Bill <bIXX [EMAIL PROTECTED] ix.sas.com> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer) writes:
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>>>Uh, yes, actually.  Or something very like it.  Considering hundreds
>>>of years of persecution against Jews and Muslims and Pagans I'd guess
>>>that the death toll caused by "Christians" far exceeds anything done
>>>thus far by any other religion.
>>
>>Your *guess* is pretty far off the mark, there Ray.
>>The atheists of Czarist Russia murdered an estimated
>>20-30 million people in the last century.
>
>That certainly wasn't justified or motivated by religion.

While I am aware of *some* atheists who *claim* to have a
"lack of belief", they delude themselves. All we have in
this world are minds that *think* and beleive in one way or
another. From my POV, Atheism is a religious belief, and
it is certainly held to as religiously as any other
religious belief by those who hold, aka believe, it to
be true.

>>  The nazi's
>>of WW2 Germany murdered some 6 million.
>
>Jews, in particular.

Mostly, but it started with the infirm, moved on to
gypsies, and then to Jews.

>>  Do you have
>>any figures for those killed in the several Islamic
>>wars,
>
>The Crusades?

Thousands.

>> the Spanish Inquisition,
>
>Pretty small, I'd guess.  Thousands, perhaps.

Ah, yeah.

>> or perhaps the Irish
>>conflicts of recent history?
>
>Less than 10,000.

Ah, yeah.

>>  I do not have a cite,
>>but recall the numbers in the hundreds and the thousands,
>>not the millions...   Try again.
>
>Then there's the near genocide of Native Americans and Australian
>Aborigines, justified in part by the fact that they were heathens.
>Notice also that there are not more Celts.  Christians eliminated them
>1000+ years ago.

Thousands again, eh?
I thought you said: "...the death toll caused by "Christians" far
exceeds anything done thus far by any other religion."  You,
yourself, mention the thousands above, but negate the millions
murdered by NON-Christians!!??  Are you insane!?




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