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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lawrence E. McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On 1 Dec 2003 15:57:01 GMT, bIX [EMAIL PROTECTED] ix.sas.com (Bill) wrote: > >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Lawrence E. McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>On 26 Nov 2003 17:44:01 GMT, bIX [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill) wrote: >>snips >>>>The difference between Judeo-Cristianity and Islam, is >>>>really a simple one, but quite profound. Christians >>>>are saved by faith, and their discipline comes from >>>>within themselves, while Moslems are saved by their >>>>works, and their discipline comes from without/others. >>> >>>Hmm. Just who are you including under 'Christians'? >> >>Pretty much all Christians, except perhaps for those who >>think they need to *do* something, other than confess, >>repent and ask/seek after Him, to be saved. I am not real >>knowledgable about Catholicism, but, acts of contrition >>aside, I think they too are *saved* through their faith. >>Are they not? > >Nope. Catholics pay more attention to James that most other >Christians. Well, it is wrong IMO to pay strict attention to any one part of the Bible, while neglecting the rest. I doubt Catholics in general do that, but as I said/wrote earlier, I do not know that much about the Catholic faith. I have read thru the Protestant Bible tho. 8) While it may appear from James' text (alone) that works are important, they are not, IMO. Yes, we know each other by our works, aka the fruit of the spirit, but that alone will not save you. It all starts with faith, and that faith is seen in one's works. Note that I emphasize *saved* above. I think you err in either your understanding or your response, ...or both. IMO, FWIW, FYI, YMMV 8^) Bill del X's 'n i's 4 rpleyes
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