Re: Any anti-abortion atheists?

"Craig Chilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:59:52 -0800,
> "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Craig Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> "Dorothy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  "Enkidu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>  Steve Dufour wrote:
>
>
> >>>>>     I've been wondering about this for the last few days.  Are there
> >>>>> any well known people around who are both atheists and are against
> >>>>> abortion?  Thanks.
>
> >>>>     Never met one opposed to abortion in all cases.  I myself think
it
> >>>> could be a lot rarer than it is and should be.  But common sense
> >>>> and sex don't seem to mix well. If the Christian anti-abortion crowd
> >>>> would put their money where their mouths are and offer to adopt all
> >>>> those unwanted babies that they're pushing for, then I'd have a bit
> >>>> of respect for them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Enkidu
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason
> >>>> is like administering medicine to the dead."
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Thomas Paine, in "The Age of Reason"
>
> >>><HATE-diatribe snipped>
>
> >>>       [Abortion providers] are serial killers period.
>
> >>       Wrong. They are HEROES.  They literally risk their lives and
their
> >> livelihood daily due to the threat posed by the few radid, foaming-at-
> >> the-mouth, abjectly-ignorant fanatics on the fringe of the Anti-Choice
> >> faction who engage in murder, maiming, bombing, and arson.
> >>
> >>       Luckily for you MINDLESS Anti-Choicers, the PRO-Choice side
> >> has NO such lunatic fringe!
> >>
> >>       And BECASE those doctors are brave enough to prvail despite
> >> such potential danger, and BECAUSE they put the lives mof more than
> >> a MILLION women a year *back* on track, ...
>
> >   Translation: the "track" of every woman is to remain barren.
>
>    Bullcrap!!  that has to be one of the most IDIOTIC lies I've ever
> heard from an Anti-Choicer!

"Anti-Choicer"?

>
>   Carrying-to-term is a lifetime-impacting decision, and it almost always
> results in a dramatic reduction of the range of future opportunities from
> the levels that had existed for those women prior to their doing that.

Untrue.

> And all too frequently, it has a negative impact on their future income,
> over decades, and even a lifetime.

"Negative impact" is a matter of opinion.

> Often leading to cycles of poverty.

Slippery-slope.

>
>    Abortion, on the other hand, immediately puts the woman's life BACK on
> it's original track.

So does a military DEmotion.

> A time machine (though imaginary) is a good
> analogy.  FEW societal "time machines" exist that can enable a person to
> totally and immediately UNDO a horrendous and life-options-impacting
> mistake.

Translation: pregnancy is a mistake.

> This is one of the best ones there is.  It immediately makes
> everything as it was BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy.

As does a demotion.

> It literally is as
> though the sperm and egg had never met, with a complete restoration of
> the previous well-being, and full range of future opportunities to
> PRE-pregnancy levels.

Andrea Yates also made it  literally is as though the sperm and egg had
never met

>
>     Interestingly, when a woman gets an abortion, it almost never is
> through a desire never to have kids.  It is usually because after all the
> factors and potential negatives have been weighed, they find that they
> are not ready to do that yet.  And then MOST of them go on to HAVE
> children later on, when the timing is better, and the overall situation
> is more favorable for a long-term stable and loving family environment.

"Better timing" and "more favorable" are subjective terms.

>
> >>    ... restoring their well-being and their full range of future
> >> opportunities to PRE-unwanted-pregnancy levels, they are
> >> TRULY **heroes** in every sense of the world.
> >>
> >>      On the other side of the coin, ANTI-Choicers are filthy and
> >> sociopathic bottom-feeders, period.
>
>