Re: Much Proof - Celts Discovered America Before Vikings.

On 26 Nov 2003 12:23:21 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold)
wrote:

>Nik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> On 30 Oct 2003 12:20:10 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.armenianhighland.com/homeland/chronicle120.html
>> >> >
>> >> > They moved from Anatolia both by land and sea (Sea Peoples who
>> >> > destroyed Troy)
>> >> > through the Balkans via the Danube then the Rhine and Volga throughout
>> >> > Europe. They named many countries, regions and cities.
>> >> >
>> >> > Danube - From Danu, water goddess.
>> >> > Rhine - From Rhini for queen.
>> >> > Britain - Brythoni tribe
>> >> > Gaul - Celts
>> >> > Deutchland - From Teuath for "people"
>> >> > Russia - From Rutheni tribe which means "wheel".
>> 
>> No, its from the word 'Russ' meaning 'Redhead'.
>
>
>The Celts had a consistent way of naming places and people. Naming
>people after the colour of their hair is a stupidity that is only
>modern.

How is that stupid?

> For a Ph.D

I don't have a Ph.D. I have a B.Sc (Philosophy) which I can prove.

> and a Celt, which I dont believe,

If the only reason that you don't believe that is because I disagree
with you then you are not being rational. I have a family tree, which
I can prove, that includes names such as O'Connell, Murphy, Kelly,
Brennan, O'Sullivan, O'Driscoll...are you denying that people with
surnames like that in their family background are Celts?

> you lack basic understanding about your culture.

No, you lack basic understanding about academic rigour. I've said a
number of times that a good number of the things that you claim I
agree with. Its the one's that overstate and are simply wrong that I
take claim with.

It is true that I haven't yet had a chance to finish reviewing ALL of
the references that you provide BUT I will but I have to say that some
of the ones that I have looked at don't support the claims that you
make to the degree that I think you would want them to be seen to do.

>The key word is Rus, not Russ. This corresponds to Ruthe, and is the
>Eastern-Celtic word for Rotha, which means wheel.

Well, you know, you could be right but I'm going to need proof. I
always thought that it was 'Rus' by the way. The name Russia is a more
modern spelling...afaik.

> There were a large
>group of people there, such as the Kartevli which means "chariot
>people", who were charioteers and had a wheel and wagon industry.

Interesting. Have you got references to back that up?

>> >> > Helveti - "Celtic Kingdom"(Switzerland)
>> >> > Harvatia - "Celtic Kingdom" (Croatia)
>> >> > Galatia - "Celtic Kingdom"!! (Turkey). The three mean the same.
>> >> > Greece - Elliniki, Celtic People.
>> >> > London - Muddy River
>> 
>> True enough.
>
>Good, you are making progress.

Don't patronise me. I am requiring academic rigour. There is nothing
deserving of patronisation in that requirement.

>> >> > Paris - Parisii tribe
>> 
>> True enough.
>> 
>> >> > Berlin - "producing linen"
>> >> > Ankara - Anchor
>> >> > Warsaw - Warriors on the river.
>> 
>> Crap.
>> 
>
>You are a eloquent Ph.D.

I *DON'T* have a Ph.D and never did I claim to. I am in the final day
of my post-graduate diploma right at this moment but its not a Ph.D

>  My linguistic friends say Warwaw could also
>mean "Phrygians living by the river".

Really? Which Linguistic friends are these? That was a typo surely?
Warsaw...

>> >It is advisable yo ignore the alternatives.
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> > They will just confuse you,
>> 
>> > like I was before my analysis brought great luminousity to the
>> >dark minded people in the arts.
>> 
>> <raucous laughter> 
>> 
>> Tell me, Harold, what University are you lecturing at?

What university are you lecturing at?

>> > They are not interested in the truth
>> >but in nationalism, politics, cultural distortions etc.
>> 
>> 
>> >Here is a very important fact:
>> >
>> >Helvetii=Carpatii (Carpathians)=Galatii 
>> >
>> >As you know, Helvetians were in Switzerland, Carpatii in the
>> >Carpathians and Galatii in Anatolia. You can easily see the following
>> >for yourself, without references.
>> >
>> >Hel=Car=Gal=Celt
>> >Vat=Pat=At=Kingdom
>> 
>> crap=bull=boll=ocks

What I'm saying, ineloquently is, proof please. I note that you
haven't actually provided any just making blanket assertions that may
or may not be true. Proof is required.

>> >So they all mean the same: "Celtic Kingdom". This refers to the entire
>> >area from the Jura, Alps, Bavaria, Bohemia, Carpathia, Wallachia, and
>> >Galatia. So it covered the core area all the way from France to
>> >Switzerland to Germany to Czech to Poland to Ukraine to Balkans and to
>> >Turkey. The words are those used either by different people or later
>> >academics for the same people ie. the Celts.
>> 
>> I'm quite prepared to believe that there was once, a relatively vast
>> Celtic Culture spread across Europe but you claim too much Harold.

I continue to stand by that.

Nik