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Re: Attention, parents of CMU students!



"Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL 
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> "Barbara Schwarz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick) wrote in message
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> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message
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> > > > "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > > "Barbara Schwarz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > WARNING
> > > > >
> > > > > (Garbage deleted)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ever hear of the freedom of speech?
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything on that site is publically available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a good day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > Jeff, there are limitations to freedom of speech. Sexual harassment is
> > > > no freedom of speech, and telling people how to make bombs is no
> > > > freedom of speech either, because people may have to die as a result
> > > > of that information.
> > > >
> > > > This earth is not a sane place. Even if you put a little note
> > > > underneath your bomb instructions and information about how to throw
> > > > bombs in police cars, that people should not do that, Dave Touretzky,
> > > > you, and anybody else knows that there are numerous people who just
> > > > want to blow up others and they screw the law and warnings. Touretzky
> > > > claims no responsibilty for what other crazy people construct and
> > > > build after the instructions on his website, but he tells them how to
> > > > do that. What a dangerous snake!
> > > >
> > > > Only because there are also other criminals out there who tell
> > > > terrorists on the web how to blow up things and people, doesn't mean
> > > > for Touretzky, a university educator (!) to act same reckless.
> > > >
> > > > I also remind you that the young man who had the same bomb
> > > > instructions on his website was arrested by the FBI. His website was
> > > > removed. What do you think makes Touretzky innocent by putting that
> > > > dangerous stuff back on his site?
> > > >
> > > > There are millions of example in which Touretzky could make his point
> > > > on freedom of speech. Endangering other peoples'lives and degrading
> > > > others through sexual perversions, persecuting religion, are the worst
> > > > examples!
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, Jeff, if you, or anybody you love will be disabled or killed
> > > > through a bomb that was build after Touretzky's or another madman's
> > > > instructions, you will be a changed man. You will regret your words
> > > > that freedom of speech should allow detailed information on how to
> > > > build and throw bombs. The world is too crazy for that information,
> > > > how come you have not noticed that?
> > > >
> > > > The right to live unharmed is a constituional right that is superior
> > > > to freedom of speech. If freedom of speech harms or endangers the
> > > > constitutional right of people to live a peaceful and happy life, you
> > > > can't say it. It would be unconstitutional. Touretzky's bomb
> > > > instructions are unconstitutional because he endangers other
> > > > constitutional rights. His persecution of religion also violates the
> > > > First Amendment.
> > > >
> > > > Barbara Schwarz
> > >
> > > Barbara, I agree with your concern. I think that freedom of speech can
> > > go a little too far. If "Freedom of Speach" allows people to promote
> > > criminal behavior, easily accessed to ALL ages, then there is
> > > something terribly wrong with our society. And people actually
> > > allowing it, and standing up for it is sickening to me. We have been
> > > fighting to keep terrorists out of our country, while our own citizens
> > > are standing up for people who have no respect for human life, and
> > > glorify the terror.
> > >
> > > It is sad how people can be so dillusional.
> > >
> > > -Gerome
> >
> > I am glad that you are responsbile, Gerome. My point exactly. The
> > world is a very dangerous place and while most people will not resort
> > to brutal violence, there are still enough people that do.
> >
> > Actually, I think freedom of speech is very important, but building
> > bombs is not. It is really rotten to abuse the First Amendment to
> > promote terrorism and crimes.
> >
> > Our police reported that 500 bombs exploded in Salt Lake Valley during
> > the last summer. They said the bombs were constructed by teenagers who
> > downloaded bomb instructions from the Internet. As far as I know, only
> > animals were killed and  property was blown up, but just imagine what
> > may happen if a person accidentially walks in the way of a bomb.
> >
> > And then there are terrorists that don't want to blow up only animals
> > (which is pretty gruesome too) and property, but aim their violence
> > towards innocent people.
> >
> > The earth doesn't need more websites to build bombs. It needs more
> > websites to build a better and saver world. And esp. an educator, as
> > David Touretzky, should know about it. He is giving "free speech" a
> > bad rap.
> 
> Ther Kriminal Kult of $cientology gives pseudo-religions a bad rap.


You are a heckler, Mister, and you don't add much to the discussion.
The thread was about Touretzky and his outrageous activities.

Barbara Schwarz



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