Re: Transubstantiation Error

in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brachypodium at
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> in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Robin at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 6/10/03 9:00 pm:
> 
>> 
>> "brachypodium" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> From: "Christopher Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio
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>> alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.sci.phenomena.unusual,sci.psycholo
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>>>> .personality,sci.techniques.testing.misc
>>>> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:25:51 GMT
>>>> Subject: Re: Transubstantiation Error
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "brachypodium" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cunneen)
>>>>>> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
>>>>>> Date: 05 Oct 2003 08:44:04 GMT
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Transubstantiation Error
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What evidence is there that bread and wine are God, here, today? It
>> is
>>>>>>> insufficient to take 'God's word' for it, unless His words can be
>> shown
>>>> to
>>>>>>> mean without doubt that bread and wine are God, or can be God. That
>> has
>>>>>>> never been done. So what practical tests can be applied to show that
>>>> bread
>>>>>>> and wine are, or can be, God? Suggestions are invited from any, but
>> in
>>>>>>> particular from accredited behavioural scientists, psychologists and
>>>> workers
>>>>>>> in related fields.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jesus' own words,<
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jesus did not make any statement that supports transubstantiation.
>>>> Luke 22:19, Matthew 26:26, John 6:32-66, 1 Cor 10:16, 1 Cor 11:23-27<
>>> 
>>> You must be aware that I am aware of these verses; so I wonder why you
>>> merely referenced them.
>>> 
>> I'm not sure you're aware of them at all, since you made that statement.
>> Perhaps you meant that your interpretation of what Jesus said doesn't
>> support Transubstantiation?  You claimed he made no statement that supports
>> Transubstantiation, I gave you 3 places in the Gospels, as well as 2 in
>> Paul's writings that appear to disagree with you.<
> 
> If you knew that they only appear to disagree, it was ingenuous of you<

Erratum: that should be 'disingenuous'.

Peter