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Re: Definition of LET and SR



"greywolf42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
SNIP
> > >>These are direct consequences of two facts about LET:
> > >>1) Maxwell's equations are valid in any moving inertial
> > >>   frame, so light propagates isotropically in any such frame
> > >>   (wrt the {x'y'z't'} coordinates of the frame).
> > >
> > > This is the assumption of SR, not of LET.
> >
> > This is an ASSUMPTION in neither theory, but it is a CONCLUSION in LET
> > -- see Lorentz's eq. 9.
>
> 1) See Einstein, 1905, the definition of the "Principle of Relativity":
"The
> same laws of electrodyamics and optics will be valid for all frames of
> reference for which the equations of mechanics hold good."  This simply
> assumes ME ("laws of electrodynamics and optics") are valid in any moving
> inertial frame.
>
> 2) Lorentz' equations 9 in no way imply that Maxwell's equations are valid
> in the moving frame.  Equations 9 include terms that don't exist in
> Maxwell's equations.

It seems that you disregard Lorentz 1906:
"Einstein simply postulates what we have deduced, with some difficulty and
not altogether satisfactorily, from the fundamental equations of the
electromagnetic field".

SNIP

> LOL!!!   Clocks do not 'behave' according to the SR "Lorentz transform" in
> LET.  You are again simply assuming SR.

Again wrong: it's easy to show that according to the theory of Lorentz
quartz resonators and atomic resonators increase in "mass" (inertia) in such
a way that that their frequency is affected in accordance with the Lorentz
transformations.

SNIP

> > Consider your "timing" experiment, but use clocks constructed out of a
> > stable monochromatic light source and a counter of its wavecrests (that
> > IS a description of an atomic clock).
>
> I'm trying to measure the motion of light.  Using a clock that I know will
be affected by the motion is ludicrous.

Now tell that to Lorentz! I quote his 1904 paper, about molecular motion:
"the proper relation between the forces and the accelerations will exist in
the two cases, if we suppose *that the masses of all particles are
influenced by a translation to the same degree as the electromagnetic masses
of the electrons.* [italics].

Harald





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