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Henry Allen wrote: > > So, > This maybe be a little crazy but I guess that never stopped anyone > from posting to usenet... > > It is well known that the rate of cooling of a volume depends largely > on the surface area of that volume. I am curious what happens in the > limit... > > Suprisingly, It is possible to constuct a curve that has an infinite > perimeter while only containing a finite area (e.g. snowflake curve). > And, if you rotate this curve in space, you wind up with a volume that > has an infinite surface area while only containing a finite volume. > So, direct application of most rate of cooling equations would imply > an infinite rate of cooling. It's entirely possible, then, to > construct a theoretical object you can hold in your hand that would > drop the earth to zero kelvin if it came into contact with it.;) Idle > speculation on the properties of such an object is amusing, I find... > > Granted as atoms have a finite size and all this isn't terribly > possible, but it does indicate that it's possible to construct > surfaces with a huge surface to volume ratio- how do the conventional > heat flow equations break down when you have really enormously large > surface areas? > Thanks! > henry OK, take a Sierpinski (Menger) sponge with infinite perimeter and zero area, <http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId=3524&objectType=FILE> http://www.h33.dk/sierpinski_index.en.html http://world.std.com/~j9/sponge/index.html Most of everything will radiate into itself as you asymptotically approach nothing/volume. You'll get a transparent body (no stuff, no optical absorption, no emittance) with the apparent extrneal surface area of the polyhedron. A good physical model for this is very low density silica aerogels http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/aerogels/saprops.htm http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/aerogel.html with densities as low as 0.003 g/cm^3. You have a nearly invisible lump (fair approximation to nothing/volume) that does not transmit heat or sound. One supposes that an *ordered* lattice constituting a photonic crystal would exhibit narrow intense transitions. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm (Do something naughty to physics)
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