Re: Sun Effects on Vacuum (Source of Qi)

cinquirer wrote:
> Mark Fergerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> > cinquirer wrote:

> > > About seership. Gee. I don't know how to explain it using any
> > > scientific terms (for they don't exist yet). But let me try.
> >
> >   Actually you don't need scientific language; just tell me 
> > in ordinary English what you do so that I can do the same. 

> Without using a scientific description but plain terms. Here's
> how one learns to see.
>
> One must activate the Kundalini (a kind of high etheric energy). 

  I was afraid you were going to go down this road. Look, I 
did Kundalini Yoga some decades back and frightened my 
teachers with my rapid progress. No "seeing", though. I 
desisted not because of the pitfalls you mention below, but 
because my family life required more attention.

<some snippage>

> Now back to the kundalini. When you have stronger kundalini.
> It affects your chakras greatly. What happens if you are mentally
> inbalanced and your chakras development are not balanced in
> relation to each other. Then the kundalini would make you worse. 
> That is. Kundalini can amplify all things in you, positive and 
> negative. See the following for what chakra correspond to what 
> endocrine glands and their characters (written by a Ph.D).
>
> http://www.healer.ch/Chakras-e.html

  I think I mentioned that I'm familiar with these 
concepts. What I'm not familiar with is any instrumented 
evidence they're anything but concepts.

  Why do I insist on instrumented evidence? Because I do 
not trust my senses, nor do I trust my mind's ability to 
interpret sensory data unassisted. I don't think I'm all 
that special, hence I do not trust anyone else's claims 
about their senses or their interpretations of their sensory 
data either. I require the corroboration of a completely 
impartial observer; a piece of hardware that does not care 
what the outcome is. If you ponder just a moment you'll 
realize that's exactly the state of Samadhi; unprejudiced 
perception. In that capacity inanimate matter has a distinct 
advantage over us.

> This is why I've seen so many victims in people attempting to open
> up the Kundalini before they are ready. Only those who are 
> pure in heart, elevated in thought can directly open the 
> Kundalini safely. This is why seers must have certain 
> virtues and qualities in them before they can safely undertake the 
> task.  Now because of their positive virtues which is what open
> up their kundalini in the first place and their subsequent chakra
> awakening. They have gone beyond showing-off and all that. This
> is why really good seers don't advertise themselves because of
> their humbleness and other positive virtues.

  You are talking to a Zen Buddhist. Please let's don't go 
on about "special virtues and qualities" without describing 
them.

> Kundalini can amplify everything in you, positive and negative.
> Since I am not perfect and have negative just like most of you.
> I noticed my attempted kundalini opening the years past were
> making me worse. I noticed my negative characters were 
> overtaking my positive ones. This is why I discontinued it so 
> my seership training was kinda aborted (hope you read this
> Bjoern so you'd understand everything).

  That's a damn shame. Get over your negative attachments 
and start again. Laugh at the monsters, that's what they're 
there for.

> I've seen so many victims of premature kundalini awakening.
> They become downright evil or suffer mental breakdown. The
> downright evil one becomes the source of the so called "sorcerers"
> who are people who have awakened their kundalini and amplify
> their negativeness and got stuck to it. For those simply unbalanced.
> It enhances their delusions and you can find it in your New Ager and
> in fact, one of the thing that makes the New Age Movement crazy.
> Only cutting edge psychology that embrace etheric science can
> look at it as it really is.  

  I was introduced to Buddhism before Kundalini so I was 
primed to be critical of everything on its own terms. I 
think that kept me from going the Bozo route.

> All of the above is not my speculation but real description of real
> events and you can find the same description in deeper level of
> esoteric teachings. (something some newbies don't take heed and 
> become the source of their downfall).

  They also forget to compare their "inner experience" with 
external reality and get all Godheaded about it.

  The problem with all so-called esoteric teachings is that 
they never ever recognize the absolute necessity of dealing 
with the real world. If you try to ignore it, it'll bite you 
in the ass because we are physical beings. We may be other 
things too, but pretending that the physical part is less 
important is like pretending that eating is irrelevant to 
spiritual advancement.

> Now why did I say all these things Mark. It is because the only
> way to really open up the third eye or seership is Kundalini
> awakening that can open up the chakras and extend your consciousness
> to higher non_physical matter and make you function in them. To
> bring what you see in higher matter to physical consciousness. You
> must be able to step it down to the brain and this needs alpha wave
> training. One can do all the alpha wave training but without an
> awakened Kundalini, you can't learn to see.

  I can Alpha-state at will, sometimes with my eyes open 
(if I lay off the coffee long enough beforehand).

> ... If you still insist that I give the details of 
> process of seeing. It's like this.  In those times when I catch some 
> glimpse of seeing, the feeling is like our brain is a generator of 
> 3D thinking and limiting our consciousness. When you expand or 
> function in your higher etheric matter, it's like another world 
> opens up in front of you. There are many levels of seerships too. 

  One of the reasons I don't trust my senses is that 
between discovering Buddhism and Kundalini, I discovered 
hallucinogens. I thus saw exactly how easily our senses can 
fool us. Mind you I never saw anything while tripping that 
wasn't there afterward, it just looked different. At the 
time I couldn't decide whether I should be jealous of those 
who saw things that weren't there afterward, or relieved 
that I didn't.

  I did perceive time differently, but never had any real 
trouble handling the physical world. In fact, that's when I 
took up rock-climbing.

  Also note I gave up hallucinogens some decades ago as a 
waste of time. I've also since decided to be relieved.

> The advanced one can see in 4 dimensions like looking at all sides 
> of a square at once. It's as if the real nature and reality of this
> world is higher dimensional (with more measurement and their 
> corresponding etheric state) and our physical world is just a 
> subset of it. Also I believe our brain is as important. Without 
> a brain. We can't form individuality enough to experience
> higher consciousness.

  Once again I'm going to tell you that theorizing is 
pointless without data. I don't have the data and you 
haven't told me how you gathered yours. That means either 
you don't understand the technique well enough to explain it 
or you're fooling yourself. Please prove me wrong; buckle 
down and tell me exactly what you do, not what you think is 
happening while you do it.

> I guess it is only when Aether Physics (or Zero Point Field, etc.) 
> is studied more and our present science become a subset of it that 
> we can truly understand all of the above. Without which, we will only 
> have El coming in and saying "No. It is not part of science therefore 
> it doesn't exist" (like someone saying in the 17th century that 
> airplanes can't and won't exist because it is not part of science 
> (their science) by then".

  Non sequitur. Neither Aether not the ZPF should be 
required to transmit a simple set of instructions.

  BTW, did you look at your fingernail under direct 
sunlight? What did you see?

  Mark L. Fergerson