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Thom wrote: > Yes and their leader, George Bush just landed in Australia and will be > dining with the PM, John Howard where Bush will throw another chump on > the barbie. Being an Australian and working for the government I have been assured by people who are in a position to know that John Howard did not really have much choice in the matter (no I can not name my source - he would be most offended if I did - rest assured he is highly placed and in a job that would be privy to such information). Our opposition can babble all it wants that we can still be Americas friend without supporting it 100% but if Australia ever really got into trouble it is America we would turn to - I have no doubt that if the current opposition was in power they would have done the same thing - and if John Howard was in opposition he probably would have made similar statements to Simon Crean (not always of case - Kim Beasley fully supported our involvement in East Timor - but that is a rareity that bucks the odds). Thom wrote: > which is why so many on this newsgroup object to the Bush > Administration and its BS And they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But you seem to be confused between pragmatic necessity and ideology - I suggest it is pragmatic necessity that is the stronger determinant. BTW I was not a supporter of the Iraq invasion - but given the climate at the time did I think America would do anything less? NO. Thom wrote: > you mean like low wages and high profits??? Are you sure your real issue is with American foreign policy or capitalism? If it is against capitalism please point out the alternate economic system that has delivered greater benefit? Russia under Stalin? Fascism? China under Mao? The highly socialist Scandinavian courtiers that are finding it harder and harder to financially support their model? I really would like to know. Thanks Bill --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003
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