Re: How to get into Scientific Programming

"William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> "Baruch Vainas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > The straw-man raises its ugly head. I did not say that "attacked" and
> > "addressed" are literally equivalent, William.
> 
> Then why did you think my comment about addressing one of your
> arguments though I hadn't quoted it was the same as your referring
> to my arguments - unquoted - as "[a] tiresome repetition of a
> description of an extremely miserable academic activity in the USA,
> real or imaginary"

Because, William, you misused the concept of "addressing" as I've
already tried to explain, and will try to do it again, below.

> Specifically the part I deleted dealt with other things professors could
> do at a university besides corporate funded research. For example,
> you said, "The worst that can happen to him [a tenured professor] is
> that he will be asked to do some more teaching and apply to more state
> funded research grants."
> 
> And when you complained about my deleting that, I explained how my
> reply to another part of that paragraph - which was quoted - covered
> that point as well:
> 
> W|  Deleted but addressed. Professors who don't do original research
> W|  often find themselves not teaching, or not teaching anything worth
> W|  while (to them). That's what I meant by "marginalized" - it's still a
> W|  publish or perish world, tenure or not.

How "often find themselves not teaching" [W], for example, is
equivalent to "will be asked to do some more teaching" [B]? More than
that, what the presupposed "marginalization" (because of presupposed
situation of no teaching) has to do with publish or perish? One can do
just some administrative job and still keep publishing.
> 
> Apparently you didn't get the implication of what "marginalized" could
> mean.

Wrong, William. Apparently you have mixed up a few concepts, and used
circular reasoning, presupposing something that one is expected to
prove, or at least justify. You assumed marginalization before proving
it. So much for your brand of "addressing". Sorry, but it sounds more
like obfuscating, which again, isn't much different, functionally,
from attacking.

--Baruch