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"Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SortingItOut) wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > "Mark Earnest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >> "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> in reply to... > >> > >> > >> > How about God made everything, but used natural selection as > >> > >> > his tool? > >> > >> > >> > >> Ok, but why would god require natural selection? > >> > > > >> > > Just as we like to use tools to make things with, so does God. > >> > > Consider natural selection his artbrush. > >> > > >> > But why couldn't god just create all things at once. > >> > >> He did, but he stretched out the seven day creation into a continual > >> creation over billions of years. This is possible because God does > >> not exist in time. > > > > > > I can't comprehend this at all (existing outside of time). Could you > > elaborate a little? Does that mean God has no memories of past events > > (even perfect memory)? Does God not experience something like "a > > moment ago" or the predicted location of a falling object 10 seconds > > in the future? > > > > Like most theist arguments, Mark's is based on hypocrisy. > > It is all right for him to make wild and unsubstantiated claims about god, > like existing "outside of time", but if a non-believer deduces any > inconsistency their oppinon has no bearing, since god can not be > understood. > Hypocrisy means to state beliefs that you do not follow. Mary has said that his understanding and experience of his God is that God is not understandable by logical thought processes. Saying that is consistent with his stated belief. Hypocrisy was probably most well known as a religious concept by Jesus when he accused the religious leaders of his time with judging others while committing the same act themselves. Mary may be making statements that aren't logical but he hasn't demonstrated hypocrisy. If anyone has, it is you for making inaccurate and illogical statements about his 'hypocrisy' when you are preaching logic and scientific accuracy.
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