Re: Proof of God's existence?

"ZenIsWhen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > >> It is not supported at all!
> > > >> If you say a tree is proof of god .. then YOU have to provide
> > > >> connecting evidence.
> > > >> The tree can be proven .. .your conclusion cannot.
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> > > > Alright, then, look closely at the tree, in all of its majesty, with
> > > > perfect chlorophyl filled leaves that produce oxygen for us to
> > > > breathe, and excellent tasting nuts for squirrels to survive winter
> > > > with.  Do you really think such a creation could happen by chance???
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> > > No, it's called evolution.
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> > > Evolution is guided by natural selection.
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> > > The problem is that you are starting with the premise that humans are
> > > destined to be here, and that the universe (or at least earth) was
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> > > for them.
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> > > Why can't humans be "designed" for earth instead?
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> > > i.e. Maybe humans breath oxygen, not because god deemed it to be that
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> > > but because plants produce an oxygen atmosphere, and breathing
anything
> > > else would mean our extinction (natural selection).
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> > How about God made everything, but used natural selection as his tool?
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> How about some valid evidence that any god exists?

Look in your front lawn.  It might be the postman. :)

> > It does not stand to reason that as large scale a complexity as the
human
> > organism could create itself, without some kind of help.
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> That's called an argument from ignorance ... you cannot comprehend how it
> could happen, so you invent a god to explain it.

Structures do not happen by themselves, they require a constructionist.
Man is a structure.
What else does it take for you to realize the ultra obvious?

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