Re: Proof of God's existence?

"John Ings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:23:12 -0600, Keynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> >Accepting all of science at face value, I think that if there is any
> >intelligence or consciousness in the cosmos, it couldn't have
> >begun with homo sapiens.  Our definitions and conceptions
> >are too humanly biased and pitifully small.
>
> I agree with Christian de Duve, who holds that life is a cosmic
> imperative. That life, and ultimately consciousness, will arise
> spontaneously wherever conditions are conducive,
>
> ## Is man one of God's blunders, or is God one of man's?

God is dead - Nietzche
Nietzche is dead - God

Interesting discussion btw. Only a minority of confused people dispute
evolution. If a few million webcams at strategic places would have recorded
the events on our planet during the last 4 billion of years, one would not
expect to see a magic stick from the heavens creating rabbits out of magic
hats.

That leaves only the question, like you said, how the evolution of
carbon-based life works. DNA mutations (random ones) and natural selection
seem to belong to the process. The question if they sufficiently explain the
complexity of function and structure of all the amazing creatures on this
planet is a bit remote, though.

To ask how evolution is possible is perhaps not much different from asking
how, say, an electron is possible. We take an electron (or any other
particle/wave pattern that persists over time) for granted and think of them
as small automatons without some freedom of movement, whilst actually they
could also be most incredibly complex and ingenious entities or
'micro-organisms'. Between their size of 10^-17cm (which is the smallest
known / observed particle, if i'm correct?)  and the Planck-scale of 10^-33
cm,  their is a whole micro-cosmos possible with complexities in structure
and function, that if we would ever be able to penetrate into that world...
the Creationists would again feel the need, I bet, to explain such marvels
via the Supernatural, as they now do with say the human eye.