Re: Myasis in man and/or animals (cross-post)

Hillary Israeli wrote:

> <snip>
> My understanding, and I am not an MD, is that once the larvae are present,
> you have to leave them to develop and exit on their own, or remove them,
> with forceps, or surgically, or whatever. There's no medical treatment to
> get them to go away, as far as I can tell. I imagine ivermectin would
> probably kill them off but you'd still have to remove them because
> otherwise you'd probably end up with a severe inflammatory/allergic
> reaction to the decaying larvae! So that's not really any help. I really
> don't see why a physician wouldn't have already told you this, though. I
> am going to search again and see if I can find your old posts to enlighten
> me about what the heck you are talking about.

I guess there's no point then because:
a) those old threads did go the gamut

b) we were talking about (his) severe back pain and it turns out so the back pain was 
unrelated to the other problems.
he's got 2 herniated disks (and eventually had a bad bout of sciatica), which prompted 
testing to reveal same

c) he, as best I can recall, was on ivermectin for at least 3 or 4 months, perhaps 
longer last Fall and winter
(the dog, horse and other human also, IIRC but I can't communicate with them obviously 
to confirm) - I'm far away.

When it got worse (not better) over the longer time, he concluded that ivermectin 
wasn't helping so tried all manner of
ways to treat the symptoms or try to get rid of them, including "excising" them 
himself, which prompted his doctor to
conclude that he was self-injuring himself .  The doctor refused to see the 3 or 4 
humans all at the same time, to see
that there's more than one person who has this.

Anyway, what prompted this new post is: Now that his back improved, he's been able to 
try a few more things.
The way they made this discovery (ie found samples) is they "bagged" the dog,
laid him inside a clear plastic bag up to the neck and closed the bag off at the neck 
and
kept the dog from moving for an extended period, so it wouldn't tear the bag open.
Waited until they saw movements in the bag, then slipped the bag off the dog and 
closed the bag
opening.
They claim to see (and have samples of) what looks like "fruit fly" or humped back fly 
.

I do believe we did reject larval migrans because the picture that someone pointed us 
to ,was of a very long wormish
thing under the skin, and there's no way a physician would have ignored such, but 
since he was trying to remove them
himself (presumably before they got that long), and due to the severe pain and 
itching...

(bots - buglady, I can't remember) and I still don't have pictures of the "bugs" or 
the lesions.
It just seems so futile and I don't know how a person (him).can be expected to deal 
with this on their own (and cope
working, sleeping etc).
I'll leave it, there's no point.
Thanks anyway,
J