Re: Byssinosis from GM cotton?

On 22 Aug 2003 23:32:50 GMT, Brian Sandle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:

>Thomas Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Excerpt from Brian Sandle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>> Recent news has stated how Monsanto are embarassed by this: many GM crop
>>> fields are now plagued by weeds resistant to Roundup herbicide. That means
>>> extra doses of Roundup and other herbicides are being applied.  Does any
>>> of it stay in the cotton lint, and on to the spun thread?
>
>>> If the lint of Bt cotton does not contain Bt I wonder if insects will 
>>> adapt to eating mainly the lint, thereby escaping too much toxin. Does a 
>>> wood borer get energy from cellulose?
>
>> Heavy use of Roundup for weed control in connection with Roundup-ready GM crops
>> whose seeds are produced by Monsanto leads to the weeds evolving resistance to
>> Roundup, just as insects have evolved resistance to insecticides.
>
>As well as the fields getting filled with plants like nettles which 
>already had resistance.

So how were nettles being dealt with in the past?
You seem to want to blame RR crops for the nettle problem.

>As Gordon showed us:
>
>http://www.couger.com/farm. He said the weeds are nettles and will 
>go down with the first dose of Roundup. But I have recently posted 
>`weeds' thread, that anettles are not so susceptible to Roundup. A 
>mix with pursuit is needed.

Which nettles, BTW? Nettles are pehaps not as susceptible to Roundup
as other weeds? I don't know, but it seems to me that nettles are
totally irrelevant.

>So maybe the Roundup had already applied.

Applied what?

>Gordon said the yellow colour of those plants was younger age, 
>compared to his ones.
>
>Or maybe Or maybe Roundup (glyphosate) causes some yellowing, in
>Roundup Ready plants, even if not as much as Zeneca's sulfosinate
>
>http://www.weeds.iastate.edu/weednews/monsantoad.jpg
>
>thanks Torsten.

How come the Zeneca plants are bigger, and the soil is yellower?   :)

>> I don't know about wood borers specifically, but many herbivorous animals
>> digest and get energy from cellulose, which is a carbohydrate.  Herbivorous
>> animals can thus live on a diet that would leave humans far short of energy and
>> protein.  I presume wood borers would get energy from cellulose, since wood is
>> apparently a nutritious food for them.
>
>
>So we give the boll worm the option of developing resistance 
>biochemcially or learning to avoid too much of the part of the plant 
>which contains the Bt. In the latter case don't we see attempts by 
>biotech to put Bt in the cellulose?

I wonder how they would do this?