Re: What happened rto Hoc Noble

Lisa and Kathleen:
I certainly sympathized about the vicious circle
you described.  People fighting CPS have learned a lot
about medical misinformation inside and outside of
the medical field itself.  In several arenas the
effects of this MISINFORMATION have lead to a parent
being sent to prison, in many others, children were
removed from their homes forever.

It is to Child Protection a bit like what DNA has
shown about a number on death row.
Not only vindication, but proof the system IS BROKEN.
All of the checks and balances HAVE FAILED MISERABLY.

Caseworkers, ER nurses and Doctors STILL think that
spiral fractures indicate child abuse.
Information available since 1997 shows that at LEAST
90% of all spiral fractures are in fact NOT child abuse.
The most grim part of one study revealed a group of
28 children (out of a 128 sample) were removed from
their families FOREVER and all were later found
to have bone diseases that should have exonerated
the parents.

The myth that spiral factures==child abuse
is still perpetrated to this day, even though
it has been disproven.  I would even go so far as to
argue that spiral fractures should no longer
be considered PROBABLE CAUSE of child abuse, since
9 out of ten times it is NOT.  The burden of PROOF
need to severely shift on this one!  The old CPS
standby of PRESUMED GUILTY needs to stop certainly.

Some of you Lyme people know about how readily
Munchausen and Munchausen by Proxy gets tossed around.

Caseworkers take a training seminar on ritual child
abuse and the next thing you know they have a whole
town charged for ritual child abuse.  (Wenatchee)

Caseworkers watch an NBC or ABC "Movie of the Week"
about something ""exciting"" like Munchausens and
the next thing you know they see it hiding in
every shadow.

To tell you the truth, I don't know which is worse,
medical people who APPEAR to be authoritative and
through the uneducated caseworkers result in harm,
or the uneducated caseworkers who have such AWESOME
power and are made legally not accountable for their
major screwups.  Sometimes the flow starts with
the caseworkers, going to the so-called professionals
to confirm their sick fertive imaginings.  When this
comes to physical exams there have been some, but
fewer problems with ""suggestability"" of doctors.
But when caseworkers send somebody to get a
Psychological Evaluation at a psychologist, there
is a distrubing number of cases where psychologists
are simply yielding to the ""suggestions"" from the
unskilled caseworkers.
 
As I mentioned elsewhere, I was a Mortician's kid.
My father and I saw first hand a few arrogant
doctors with "God Complexes".  Some of them get
really carried away, grooving on their power trip
in a hospital. "Stat!" etc...  But my Dad buried
quite a few of their mistakes.  Occasionally he
even discovered what the ME could not find, after
making a considerable mess.  Sometimes embalming
reveals cardiovascular blockages.

Somewhere in my toolbox, among my electronic tools,
is a pair of hemostats that arrived in somebody.
Long since sterilized of course.

Those hemostats will forever be my symbol of the
fallibility of doctors.

Just like with lawyers, people need to walk a fine
line between believing everything the pro tells them
and second guessing.  Too much second guessing can
make you a complete pain in the butt, and hurt you.
Not enough second guessing can hurt you also.

Here in Iowa, it has become a new summer tradition
for the news media to report cases of West Nile virus.
The number of cases, locations and death toll
are becoming a fixture in Television news.
Mosquito Control has become a big deal.

With our overpopulation of white tail deer, we
have heard a lot about avoiding ticks, especially
deer ticks.  Is that the main vector for Lyme?
Are we in a hot zone for Lyme Disease?

Wise Man: Do you have Lyme disease?
I would think that if you did, you would be
a bit more hospitable to such statements
and questions.

If you DON'T, then what are your motivations?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lisam01502) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Is this disease truly limited to certain
> >regions or is it just undetected in others?
> 
> Regions where Lyme is "rare" are often the victim
> of a vicious circle in which physicians are told
> it's rare in their area, so they do not consider
> it in their differential diagnosis. So for example,
> they may then slip into a habit of diagnosing
> dozens of "brown recluse spider bites", "ringworm"
> cases etc etc, which are in reality EM, simply out
> of habit and because that is what other local
> physicians, subject to the same misinformation,
> are doing.
>
> Add into that the fact that in the unlikely event
> that they do diagnose a case of Lyme against the
> official "wisdom" that insists the area is
> Lyme-free, they will ship blood off to a lab that
> likely uses the kind of faulty testing
> protocols set up by Steere and co.
>
> When these tests come back (falsely) negative,
> are they likely to challenge them? And are they
> likely to pursue the possibility of seronegative Lyme?

> Only an exceptionally knowledgeable (and ethical)
> doctor would. Then the harassment kicks in -
> threats, visits from the OPMC, slanderous
> accusations.
> 
> Think about it - do birds, covered with Lyme ticks,
> consult little maps under their wings, and then
> call to each other - "Hey Tweety, take a left at
> the next mountain range will ya? We can't stop here,
> it's a CDC (or Eucalb) - designated
> Lyme -non-endemic area!"
> Lisa