Re: Turkic C,oban (Re: HUNNISH SENTENCE)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yusuf B Gursey) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > 
> > > zopan is decidedly un-turkic,
> > 
> > No less than "decidedly"...? :)) Well, what is it
> > decidedly then...??
> 
> initial z- gives it away. also the inscription in which it appears in
> Europe is attributed to the Pechenegs (not the Huns) by Nemeth.

according to WILHELM THOMSEN ,The inscription in guestion is stemming
from the language of BULGAR Turks.......

Some academicians mean European Hunnish Language carry some
differences differently from ASIAN HUNNISH LANGUAGE when taking into
consideration  The words DENGIZIK and KI-SCO which stands for the word
KIZ in Turkish......It is said that the avaliability of the letter Z
&#305;n both of the words above  differ European Hunnish from r-Asian
Hunnish language....
..
some references about the language of T'OPAS ;

LOUIS BAZIN; ^^RECHERCHES 'SUR LES PARLERS T'O-PA, T'OUNG
PAO,XXXIX(LEIDEN 1950)

PELLIOT P.; L'ORIGINE DE T'OU-KIE;NOM CHINOISE DES TURKS; T'OUNG PAO
1915,P.689; JOURNAL ASIATIC ,1925 NO.1,P.254-255;T2OUNG
PAO.1925-26,P.79 ET 93;

P.BOODBERG ; THE LANGUAGE OF THE TOPA WEI/HARVARD JOURNAL OF ASIATIC
STUDIES, 2.1936 P.165-185..

G.CLAUSON,TURK,MONGOL,TUNGUS// ASIA MAJOR, NEW SERIES ( VOL.VIII)
,PT.I.1960,P.117-118

among the linguistic material in related to  the language of T'OPAS ,
 There is one saying a T'opa king said ...ATIG BELGiITEF; Its
explanation in Turkish;-----  He must be documented his name....is it
not a good example ,which shows the language of T'OPAS is
Turkish..?...

The Hunnish sentence  found by SHIRATORI has been tried to be read by
RAMSTEDT,BAZIN,GABAIN,SHIRATORI ,BENZING and the others with the help
of Turkish..

These academicians did not come to an agreement on the explanation of
that sentence because of fact that They did not give necessary 
importance to sound values ., so DOERFER said that this hunnish
sentence could be read in Escimo language as well.. PULLEYBLANK said
the suffix NG,which was frequently used in the sentence, can be one of
Cet origin.. but He did not read that.. to tell the truth,PULLEYBLANK
knew very well that this sentence could not be read in Cet language
....As far as I know,,,,DOERFER and PULLEYBLANK have never said any
thing on whether or not The sentence in question is of Hunnish
origin...