Re: particles and the transitivity of verbs

"Cindy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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(B> necoandjeff wrote:
(B>
(B> > "Cindy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
(B> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B> >
(B> >>Curt Fischer wrote:
(B> >
(B> >
(B> >>>Please weight the advise of those more
(B> >>>qualified much more heavily than mine.
(B> >>
(B> >><kyaaa!> what happened to your English?
(B> >
(B> >
(B> > Could use a comma after qualified perhaps but this is perfectly
(Bacceptable
(B> > and understandable English in this context.
(B>
(B> In your world, it may be.  I am sure many ESLers are in wonder quietly.
(B>  You forgot a comma in your sentence too.
(B>
(B> I didn't do finding his fault or any nitpicking.  I can not prove
(B> scientifically or write a long theory like you do; however, I have a
(B> feeling that Curt must be improving his Japanese a lot (you saw my
(B> complimenting his okuyukashisa, didn't you?) so that his English is
(B> messed up.  I kinda like it as well. I am perceiving it with positive
(B> attitude.
(B>
(B> $B$o$+$k$+$J$"!)!!$"$^$j:Y$+$/@[EMAIL PROTECTED]&!&!&(B
(B>
(B> However, do you know why Curt knows that his Japanese sucks?  It is
(B> because he knows that he hasn't mastered it yet.  He is aware that there
(B> is a lot more to learn, and there are people better than he is.  That
(B> idea helps him be okuyukashii.  It's a virtue in the Japanese culture
(B> but not in the low-context and individualistic culture.
(B>
(B> Looks like I am getting an A on psychology.  I will know it for sure on
(B> Thursday.
(B
(B
(BCindy, Cindy, Cindy. It seems that my criticism of your criticism (actually
(Bit wasn't so much your "criticism" as your own professed "love of
(Bcriticism") of American culture and your misunderstanding of certain aspects
(Bof it has really gotten to you. How unfortunate.
(B
(BAs Jim pointed out, he misspelled a word (I'll give him the benefit of the
(Bdoubt and assume that was just a typo). He also left out a comma which, as
(Byou can see from my own posts, is fairly common when typing quick messages,
(Be-mails, etc. (Not that that is any excuse really.) Otherwise, his "English"
(B(the words he chose) was just fine. Had he spoken the same sentence (no
(Bspelling or punctuation), it would have been just fine, even if not a model
(Bof clarity.
(B
(BAnd I must admit, I'm having a difficult time reconciling your fondness for
$B$*$/$f$+$7$$(B (that's a virtue in Japanese culture but presumably not in
(BAmerican culture is it?) with your fondness for pointing out the errors of
(Bothers and your sarcastic tone toward those who have disagreed with you or
(Bpointed out your errors in the past. No, I don't agree with a lot of
(Bopinions that you hold about American culture, and yes I have taken you to
(Btask on some of those in the past. But the way you address people who
(Bdisagree with you is just plain childish. I think it is downright funny that
(Byou expend so much energy tossing around all this psycho-babble all the time
(Bin this NG, as if you have figured out yourself and the whole world
(B(particularly American culture), without even realizing how downright
(Bchildish you are yourself, both in your understanding of the world around
(Byou, and the way you communicate with others in this NG.
(B
(BJeff