Re: seismology and solar flare prediction

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Bob Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:37:56 GMT, in sci.geo.earthquakes, Timberwoof
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >In article 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Michael Mcneil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> "rick++" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <Snipped not sniped>
> >> > The monster sunspots will reappear the end of November. There are no
> >> > satellites regularly observing the far side of the Sun. So seismic
> >> > vibrations on the earth-facing side of the Sun are tomographically
> >> > inverted to image the velocity anomalies far side of the Sun which
> >> > represent cooler sunspot regions.
> >> <More judicial editing> 
> >> > Seismic vibrations are measured at tens of thousands of locations on the
> >> > Sun's surface via Doppler shifts by the Soho satellite.
> >> 
> >> At the moment our understanding of the sun is only that which we see.
> >> There is as yet no other known sensory equiptment that can be used on
> >> the sun. And if there was the radio signal from it or them would not be
> >> decipherable due to solar radiation.
> >> 
> >> What is presumed to be happening on the sun is entirely that:
> >> presumption.
> >
> >I suppose you're right. But what about the evidence for fusion and the 
> >Bethe process? 
> >
> >> As  far as I can make out the sun-spots seem to be linked to each other
> >> in a similar manner to the phenomena on earth known as the weather
> >> system (or systems) of High and Low pressure areas.
> >
> >That's pretty remarkable. I didn't know that highs and lows camr in 
> >pairs ... and I didn't know that sunspots, though they do come in pairs, 
> >are high and low pressure areas. 
> 
> actually sunspots don't come in "pairs."

Hmmm. Are you sure about that? 

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solar/sunspot.html
"...sunspots generally occur in pairs with the magnetic field coming out 
of one and into the other." 

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/Sunspot.html
"Dark, cool sunspots appear on the Sun 's surface often in pairs..." 

A Google search on "sunspot pairs" yields about six throusand results. 

>  there is a high and low in sunspot
> numbers. This can be graphed and the graph looks somewhat like a sine wave
> of sorts with an approximate primary 11 year cycle. A secondary 111 year
> cycle may also exist. There is also a possible 3 cycle too, depending on
> where you look.
> 
> Now what surprises most people is: There is a secondary high spike that
> happens after the high point. It seldom is as high as the highest point but
> the slope is often much fastest. It is what the current sunspot cycle is
> doing right now. 
> 
> >> It will probably turn out that these spots, flares and promenances are
> >> indeed caused by or related to seismiciity. To state catagorically that
> >> they are, is to presume too heavily on the veracity of a very dubious
> >> theory; to whit: Doppler theory or effect.
> >
> >That'ys pretty interesting. I've never heard of these objections. Could 
> >you explain the Doppler theory and why you doubt it so much?
> 
> You are trolling the troll aren't you?

Shhhh!

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