Re: save waters & fish from socialism's destruction

No, what he's saying is that the Nazis, no matter what they labeled
themselves as, were in reality totalitarian fascists. Fascism is about
corporatism, at least if you believe Bennito Mussolini.  Marxism is about
the removal of the aristocracy, and eventually a social levelling with
workers owning the businesses they work in.  The problem with the various
governments you mentioned is that none of them were willing to really follow
the Marxist theory of continued revolution, they became totalitarian
aristocracies themselve, unwilling to move forward to true socialism.

But I expect that you knew that.  The extreme right in this country seems
fond of trying to re-label anything that might be disagreeable on their side
of the spectrum as socialists.  Kind of like labelling moderates as
liberals, knowing that the moniker has been changed by their rhetoric to be
a title of denigration.

Interestingly enough, I suggest you might reread Mussolini's words, the
Republican extremists are now parroting his sayings.  Makes the appelation
"fascist" seem apt when applied to them.


"rex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Sure, the National Socialist German Workers Party followed a creed that is
> recognizably similar to
> those espoused by Karl Marx, or the socialist movement (which predated
> Marx).  Your point is not clear. Are you saying that the National
Socialist
> German Workers Party is not recognizably similar to the Union of Soviet
> Socialist Republics and Communist China because the Union of Soviet
> Socialist Republics and Communist China each separately slaughtered even
> more people than did the horrid National Socialist German Workers' Party ?
>
> "Anon." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > rex wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, the Nazis really were the National Socialist German Workers'
Party.
> > >
> > > "Anon." wrote>
> > >
> > >>Well, the Nazis weren't really, were they?
> >
> > But they hardly followed a creed that would be recognisably similar to
> > those espoused by Karl Marx, or the socialist movement, which was the
> > point I was trying to make.
> >
> > Bob
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