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RESULT
unmoderated group misc.metric-system passes 211:25
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Nov 2003.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Markus Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Votetaker: Bill Aten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There were 236 valid YES/NO votes submitted during the voting period. Each
proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at
least 100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows:
misc.metric-system results - 236 valid (YES & NO) votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
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211 25 : Yes Yes : Yes : misc.metric-system
6 abstaining votes and 3 invalid votes
The proposal passed.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroup shortly
thereafter.
The remainder of the RESULT contains:
Newsgroups Line
Rationale
Charter
Final Voting Acknowledgements
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
misc.metric-system The International System of Units.
RATIONALE: misc.metric-system
Units of measurement and related standards affect many aspects of our
daily lives. The global standardization of a single consistent
International System of Units was a major breakthrough for human
civilization and significantly simplified communication, learning,
work and trade all over the planet.
The introduction of the metric system still faces delays in some
areas. Notable examples are consumer communication and traffic
regulations in the United States and United Kingdom, as well as parts
of the aeronautical and typographic industry. It is therefore no
surprise that discussions about the metric system flare up regularly
in many different newsgroups. In particular the slow progress with
metrication in the United States promises to fuel such debates for
many years to come.
A dedicated newsgroup will focus expertise and will provide a medium
for professionals and hobbyists to find advice and suggestions on
metric product standards and conventions. None of the newsgroups in
which metric-system issues flare up frequently is particularly suited
for this topic by charter and readership. The popularity of the
existing US and UK Metric Associations' mailing lists demonstrates
that there is a significant number of people interested in the topic.
Considering the important role that units of measurement play in
everyone's life, this promises to become a quite lively newsgroup.
The name of the proposed group has been the subject of some debate.
The present proposal is motivated by these considerations:
- Although discussions about the metric system focus much on its
slow progress in a small number of countries, the topic is
inherently international in nature and discussions tend to benefit
very significantly from world-wide participation. Therefore,
placing the group under us.* or uk.* would be inappropriate.
- The metric system affects many fields, including consumer
communication and road traffic. Discussions about the metric
system range from basic science and applied engineering
considerations to economic, social, psychological, legal, public
policy and media aspects. This excludes sci.* and leaves misc.* as
the most appropriate hierarchy.
- The metric system is the only system of units used in almost every
region and field of application. "Imperial" and "U.S. Customary"
units are usually discussed in relation to the metric system,
which is within the scope of the proposed group. Other unit
systems have very limited applications and are better discussed in
specialized science or history groups. The proposed group is far
more likely to have specialized children rather than equivalent
siblings, which speaks against an entire misc.measurement.*
hierarchy and justifies a place directly under misc.
- The term "metric system" remains the most well known and most
easily recognized English language term for what is more formally
called the "International System of Units (SI)". This speaks
against group names such as *.si or *.metric.
The proposed charter has equally been the subject of some debate. The
present proposal is motivated by these considerations:
- It refers equally to both the official modern name "International
System of Units (SI)" and the colloquial English term "metric
system". This is in the interest of rapid recognition by both
readers and search-engine users. Any further distinction between
these terms is deliberately left to explanatory periodic postings.
- It is broad enough to cover discussions about different historic
variants of the metric system (e.g., CGS, MKS, various European
customary units) as well as contemporary units that compete with
the SI (e.g., inch, pound, Fahrenheit, calorie).
- It is narrow enough to exclude topics that are not related to
metric units (e.g., the history and redefinition of calendars).
- It covers product standards and conventions that are not part of
any official definition of the metric system, but that are closely
related to metric units (e.g., metric clothing sizes, paper
formats, engineering components, traffic regulations). These can
be considerably more complex topics than the metric system itself,
leading to discussions of particular interest to consumers and
practitioners.
- It leaves room for the possible later creation of a separate
misc.metric-system.advocacy group for those with a particular
interest in political activities related to metrication.
- It was written with the expectation that the topic is unlikely to
attract large non-plain-text postings, commercial advertising or
unsocial behaviour in any particular way, leaving these issues to
common sense and USENET etiquette.
- It is brief.
CHARTER: misc.metric-system
This newsgroup is for discussion about the International System of
Units (SI) or metric system, including its use in scientific,
technical, and consumer applications, its history and definition, and
its adoption in fields and regions where other units of measurement
are still prevalent (metrication). Included within its scope are
related global standards and conventions, for example metric product
specifications and consumer-product labelling practice.
END CHARTER.
FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
misc.metric-system - Final Voter List
NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
are provided only to help verify the validity of the interest poll.
Voted YES
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5y3uxtekgx [at] earthlink.net Paul Hirose
72027.3605 [at] compuserve.com Bob Bailin
alan.jamieson [at] ntlworld.com Alan Jamieson
alanh [at] unc.edu Alan Hoyle
aminggs [at] yahoo.co.uk Andrew Inggs
Andries.Brouwer [at] cwi.nl Andries Brouwer
anthony [at] atkielski.com Anthony Atkielski
b4r4n5k1 [at] yahoo.com Adam Baranski
baron_carter [at] bmc.com Baron Carter
bfrost [at] nyx.net Bonnell Frost
blaise.egan [at] btopenworld.com Blaise F Egan
bob [at] cave.org Robert Wilkins
boldyrev+nospam [at] cgitftp.uiggm.nsc.ru Ivan Boldyrev
bouvin [at] daimi.au.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
Brian.Inglis [at] SystematicSw.ab.ca Brian Inglis
buff [at] pobox.com William Denton
CarletonM [at] aol.com Carleton MacDonald
cdkaese [at] ntlworld.com Chris Kaese
celia.mesure [at] spritenote.co.uk Celia Mesure
ceri [at] submonkey.net Ceri Davies
chemgurl77 [at] hotmail.com Caroline Kelly
chrajohn [at] alumni.indiana.edu Chris Johnson
chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman
chris [at] lordsutch.com Chris Lawrence
chris [at] metric.org.uk Chris KEENAN
CirgreeSys [at] aol.com Timothy Moylan
coghlan [at] sympatico.ca Patrick Coghlan
craigholl [at] hotmail.com Craig Holl
croyle [at] gelemna.org Don Croyle
d3c930 [at] webmail.co.za Declan George
dalcorn [at] hoosierlink.net David K Alcorn
davep [at] davep.org Dave Pearson
Dave_English [at] mail2dave.com Dave English
david [at] king-usa.com David King
david [at] rossde.com David E. Ross
dbpg [at] telus.net David Gibson
dbreslau [at] ContinuumPhotonics.com David Breslau
de5 [at] sws5.ornl.gov Dave Sill
dips770 [at] yahoo.co.uk Dipika Tanna
don-aitken [at] clara.co.uk Don Aitken
dshatto [at] ucla.edu David Shatto
dviolini [at] adelphia.net Robert de Violini
dwolff [at] panix.com David Wolff
Ekkehard [at] Uthke.de Ekkehard Uthke
elizabeth.gallagher [at] rogers.com Elizabeth Gallagher
ellis [at] spinics.net Rick Ellis
erickhagstrom [at] hotmail.com Erick Hagstrom
erik+misc.metric-system [at] selwerd.nl Erik Warmelink
erwan [at] rail.eu.org Erwan David
esa.peuha [at] helsinki.fi Esa Peuha
fisal [at] vbi.vt.edu Fidel Salas
flo [at] uk.thalesgroup.com Paul Williams
franck.thales [at] wanadoo.fr Franck T.
frankmatthews [at] houston.rr.com Frank Matthews
fungus [at] OCF.Berkeley.EDU Hank Fung
gareth.rees [at] pobox.com Gareth Rees
gherbert [at] retro.com George William Herbert
gnygaard [at] nccray.com Gene Nygaard
goltz [at] mmert.org James P. Goltz
han.maenen [at] wanadoo.nl Han Maenen
harder [at] myrealbox.com Jesper Harder
hcrun [at] charter.net Dick Jackson
hebbard [at] mail.msen.com Bruce Hebbard
henks [at] cistron.nl Henk Schaer
herber [at] fnal.gov Randolph J. Herber
horlacher [at] belwue.de Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher
howard.w.ludwig [at] lmco.com Howard W. LUDWIG
hughescck [at] citcom.net Carroll Hughes
ian.cowley [at] addenbrookes.nhs.uk Ian Cowley
ijackson [at] chiark.greenend.org.uk Ian Jackson
james.bursa [at] strcprstskrzkrk.co.uk James Bursa
JamesL [at] Lugoj.com James Logajan
jdg [at] diogenes.sacramento.ca.us John David Galt
jeff [at] inforama.co.uk Jeff Gross
jeffrey [at] carlyle.org Jeffrey Carlyle
jilvonen [at] ee.oulu.fi Jussi Ilvonen
jim.silverton [at] erols.com James Silverton
jimmc [at] nova.org Jim McCracken
jimmy-riddle [at] lineone.net Andrew Macpherson
jimrtex [at] pipeline.com Jim Riley
jjllxa16 [at] xs4all.nl J. J. Lodder
jmprice [at] calweb.com John M. Price, PhD
joe [at] jolomo.net Joe Morris
john.hyde [at] ntlworld.com John A Hyde
John.Jones [at] cec.eu.int John Michael Jones
john [at] tradoc.fr John Wilcock
Jon.Ericson [at] jpl.nasa.gov Jon Ericson
jonathan.miles [at] uk.pwc.com Hugh Jonathan Miles
jpc [at] suespammers.org J. Porter Clark
kai-vote-mms [at] khms.westfalen.de Kai Henningsen
kamlet [at] panix.com Art Kamlet
khaled [at] easy.com Khaled Choudhury
kilopascal [at] cox.net John P. Schweisthal
kilopond [at] bigpond.com Eric Burns
kubijens [at] minet.uni-jena.de Jens Kubieziel
laszlo [at] pop-mg.rnp.br Laszlo Pinto
lmend [at] ccny.cuny.edu Loren D. Mendelsohn
lsonderling [at] earthlink.net Lawence Sonderling
m.j.moseley [at] imperial.ac.uk Merrick Moseley
mail [at] larskasper.de Lars Kasper
mail [at] sebastian-brocks.de Sebastian Brocks
Markus.Kuhn [at] cl.cam.ac.uk Markus Kuhn
martin [at] vliet.demon.co.uk Martin Vlietstra
mattheww [at] chiark.greenend.org.uk Matthew Woodcraft
matthewzotter [at] earthlink.net Matthew Zotter
mavifibe [at] angelfire.com Marcus V F Be
max [at] alcyone.com Erik Max Francis
mdhixson [at] hiwaay.net Mark Hixson
mechtly [at] ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Eugene A. Mechtly
metricvij [at] hotmail.com Brij Bhushan Vij
metrikk [at] hotmail.com Krishna Kambhampaty
mgk920 [at] dataex.com Michael G. Koerner
michael.dahms [at] fh-flensburg.de Michael Dahms
michael.mauch [at] gmx.de Michael Mauch
michal [at] rosa.id.au Michal Rosa
mjonesmel [at] comcast.net Matthew D. Jones
morgan [at] head.cfa.harvard.edu Windsor Morgan
msaarniv [at] mail.student.oulu.fi Mikko Saarnivala
msh210 [at] math.wustl.edu Michael Hamm ("msh210")
mthalloran [at] aol.com Michael T. Halloran
naughtin [at] bigpond.net.au Pat Naughtin
ncooper [at] wahoo.sjsu.edu Noreen Cooper
ned [at] kilowatt.whoi.edu Ned Forrester
nehager [at] msi-sensing.com Nat Hager III
nejman [at] goteborg.bostream.se Asbjörn Nejman
news01+Steven.Murdoch [at] cl.cam.ac.uk Steven J. Murdoch
news1 [at] matthias-baake.de Matthias Baake
nfitz [at] sentex.net Nicholas Fitzpatrick
nhoffmann [at] despammed.com Norbert Hoffmann
Nicefella [at] tesco.net Rowland Dye
nikkit [at] web.de Kai Rode
oconnell [at] slr.orl.lmco.com Kevin B. O'Connell
odt [at] dtrx.de Olaf Dietrich
oraivio [at] mail.student.oulu.fi Ossi Raivio
pa [at] cdg.chalmers.se Per Andersson
palaste [at] cc.helsinki.fi Joona I Palaste
pan [at] syix.com Pan
patrick.f [at] netaccess.co.nz Patrick Fitzgerald
per-ove.persson3 [at] comhem.se Per Ove Persson
pete.forman [at] westerngeco.com Pete Forman
Peter-Lawrence.Montgomery [at] cwi.nl Peter Montgomery
Peter [at] Lairo.com Peter Lairo
phil [at] bathcity.org.uk Philip Andrews
phil [at] celeritycomm.com Phil Chernack
phil [at] durden.clara.co.uk Phil D
phil [at] mckerracher.org Phil McKerracher
philip.hall2 [at] ntlworld.com Philip S Hall
Piotr.Zielinski [at] cl.cam.ac.uk Piotr Zielinski
pk [at] TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE Peter Koch
pm9000 [at] usa.net Mark Halsall
porjes [at] spamcop.net Peter Stephenson
ppnerk [at] yahoo.com Phred Pnerk
promotemetric [at] earthlink.net Ronald L. Stone
psmyth [at] gmx.net Peter Smyth
ptrusten [at] cox.net Paul Trusten
ressel [at] frontiernet.net Howard Ressel
riane21c [at] hotmail.com Riane Martin
richardl [at] zetnet.co.uk Richard Loebner
richgr [at] panix.com Rich Greenberg
richw [at] richw.org Rich Wales
rkim461 [at] ECY.WA.GOV Rich Kim
rlcarr [at] animato.arlington.ma.us Rich Carreiro
rlh [at] theworld.com Roger L Hale
rmcleod [at] pacificcoast.net Robert McLeod
rnews [at] river.com Richard Johnson
robert [at] chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk Robert Marshall
robin.paice [at] btconnect.com Robin Paice
Roddy.Urquhart [at] synopsys.com Roddy Urquhart
ronald.gallagher [at] rogers.com Ronald Gallagher
rphenry [at] cox.net Richard Henry
rps [at] rena.mat.uc.pt Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
rpyle [at] sciti.com Robert Pyle
sagittaria [at] softhome.net Sagittaria
sandmann [at] clio.rice.edu Charles Sandmann
sanschag [at] staff.uni-marburg.de Paul Sanschagrin
Sascha.Schimke [at] Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE Sascha Schimke
sbfaulds [at] ihug.co.nz Stuart Brodie Faulds
sbrel [at] pcug.org.au Sandy Brelsford
sc1-news [at] roamer1.org Stanley Cline
sgmail [at] rogers.com Stephen Gallagher
shields [at] msrl.com Michael Shields
shrao [at] nyx.net Shrisha Rao
simon [at] darkmere.gen.nz Simon Lyall
sj.bond [at] onyxnet.co.uk shirley bond
skywatchbob [at] yahoo.com Robert Price
smlucas [at] flashmail.com Steven Lucas
sostaric [at] mszs.si DAVOR SOSTARIC
sparre [at] nbi.dk Jacob Sparre Andersen
srl32 [at] cam.ac.uk Stephen Lewis
steve-in-sf [at] sbcglobal.net Steve Zafft
steve [at] steve-and-pattie.com Steve MacGregor
t.wade [at] vms.eurokom.ie Tom Wade
terry [at] connected-systems.com Terry Simpson
thefatphil [at] yahoo.co.uk FatPhil
thierry [at] pompo.net Thierry Thomas
thk [at] kms.dk Thomas Knudsen
thor [at] anta.net Thor Kottelin
toivo [at] ucs.uwa.edu.au Toivo Pedaste
tomp [at] st.net.au Tom Perrett
trh [at] xs4all.nl Tom Hageman
tuhing [at] lexmediadigital.ph Tom W. Uhing
twid [at] bibulus.org Thomas Widmann
van.ette [at] inter.nl.net Robert-Jan van Ette
vote-misc.metric-system [at] newton.digitalspace.net Philip Newton
Wbauer03 [at] aol.com William Bauer
wessels7 [at] xs4all.nl Rik Wessels
wfp [at] wfpconsulting.com Bill Potts
willner [at] cfa.harvard.edu Steve Willner
worstall [at] btopenworld.com Michael V Worstall
zimnyzenon [at] interia.pl Zenobiusz Zimny
zvr [at] pobox.com Alexios Zavras
Voted NO
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aaron [at] aaroncity.com Aaron O'Donnell
billv1939 [at] netscape.net Bill Vajk
brougham5 [at] yahoo.com E. Brougham
cfsen [at] hotmail.com Sen Chao Fang
clzeni [at] mindspring.com clzeni
dc [at] panix.com David W. Crawford
devin [at] thecabal.org Devin L. Ganger
dougbob [at] charter.net Bob Douglas
eaking [at] ulape.org.uk Edward King
fwbrown [at] bellsouth.net Wayne Brown
gaillard [at] panix.com Ed Gaillard
gprrspw [at] mindspring.com G.P. Ryan
graham.drabble [at] lineone.net Graham Drabble
johnl [at] iecc.com John Levine
josephb [at] panix.com Joe Bernstein
miliff [at] qnet.com Mary Shafer
msb [at] vex.net Mark Brader
naddy [at] mips.inka.de Christian Weisgerber
nafig_blin [at] hotmail.com Eduard Petrov
patrick [at] texier.info Patrick Texier
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
ronnirubin [at] sprintmail.com Arthur Rubin
ru.igarashi [at] usask.ca ru igarashi
stainles [at] realtime.net Dwight Brown
wiz [at] verinet.com Wiz
Voted ABSTAIN
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aahz [at] pobox.com Aahz
hkt79 [at] earthlink.net Henrietta K Thomas
michael_eaton [at] hotmail.com Michael Eaton
mmontcha [at] OregonVOS.net Matthew Montchalin
tempdog [at] erols.com A [Temporary] Dog
yan [at] storm.ca Yves Bellefeuille
Invalid Votes
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chemgurl77.trash [at] hotmail.com chem
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m.collado [at] aaron.ls.fi.upm.es Manuel Collado
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