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A few points in closing: Of the five hypothetical examples, three from Turmel, one from myself - The right side up bowl, the upside down bowl and the ball rolling along the plane, and the terminal velocity example - Arguably, not one of them demonstrates any type of feedback properly defined. The two real world examples that I supplied definitely do: the clock escapement and the triode amplifier that demonstrate the beneficial effects of *positive* feedback that revolutionized the world we live in. The first for the first time enabled navigation across open oceans. The second enabled modern communications. Turmel's assertion that "positive feedback is always unacceptably unstable" is demonstrated to be complete nonsense beyond the shadow of doubt. He furthermore claims that *interest* is positive feedback in the physical sense, which it definitely isn't. It is feedback only in the social sense that it is information that flows to entrepreneurs and their financiers. It is defined by consumer choice in free markets. It is measured through the rules of accounting. No analogy from the physical world therefore is relevant. Now on to the question of Turmel's honesty: He has repeatedly claimed to be an engineer, and continues to do so. In answer to an earlier challenge from me, he replied that he has a four-year B.S. in electronics engineering diploma from Carleton, I believe. In further query he admitted that he has never been employed even for a single day as an engineer, that he has always been self-employed as a professional gambler. He admitted that he has never been recognized as an engineer through the registration process in Alberta or anywhere else. But-- This is how he styles himself that you can see at the "bowl" link: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm "John C. Turmel, B. Eng." It is what in business and law we would call a "deceptive trade practice." Registered professional engineers style themselves "R. Eng." Presumably, Turmel hangs on the technicality that the "B" derives from the B.S. in engineering that he claims he possesses. But there is no accreditation anywhere in the world that styles itself, "B. Eng." Possibly in the history of the world no one has every styled himself "B. Eng." except for John Turmel. Purely and simply it is concocted to deceive, to fool those who don't look closely into believing he is really an engineer.
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