Re: TURMEL: Money, Interest and Prosperity

Just to forestall lying, I would like to elaborate that
my statement about gold possession (re: FDR's policies)
is in the context of gold being used as money by the people.

The meaning should be obvious to a knowledgable,
honest person, but that does not seem to be who I am
dealing with here.

dp

"Dan Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:33:54 GMT, "Dan Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > >> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:09:20 GMT, "Dan Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Of course a simpleton would think a 100% control
> > >> >factor would be the only control factor to worry about.
> > >>
> > >> Do you know what "corner" means?
> > >
> > >It means there are monopoly forces at play.
> >
> > No, actually, it doesn't.
>
>
> Well this is neat Roy. You told me I didn't know the
> definition of a word. I supplied a meaning for it, along with
> a reference.
>
> You repeat my meaning is wrong, yet do not supply a definition or
> a reference.
>
> Is there a way that a lowly plebe like myself may get a great man
> like to you to lower himself to designate what a word means (in order
> that the dictionaries may be corrected)?
>
> >
> > >I think they are wrong that the game will be over.
> >
> > Of course.  As long as governments are trying to convince people that
> > their toilet paper is "as good as gold," one way they will do that is
> > by trying to make gold look bad.
> >
> > >> >You can look at the Great Depression for a more modern
> > >> >version of this (where gold was confiscated, by making it
> > >> >illegal for citizens to hold it).
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
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>>http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/MainPages/Comic.asp?Page=7&Language=Engl
> i
> > >sh
> > >>
> > >> Forcible confiscation is not "cornering."
> > >
> > >No, it just helped the monopolizers is all, or led to cornering.
> >
> > I agree.  But it was obviously done to _demonetize_ gold.
>
> As I understand your argument here, you are agreeing that
> gold was cornered, in order to make your case that it is
> idiocy to suggest that gold could be cornered.  In your
> first post, (which failed to explain how the gold standard
> did not lead to the current debt/interest monetary fraud
> we have now) you called it idiocy to suggest that gold
> could be cornered; (which is to say FDR did not make
> gold possession illegal in the U.S, and all the history books that
> say this are wrong.) Nevermind the GATA stuff you snipped
> which reiterates lawsuits and basically proof that gold
> is being controlled on an international basis.
>
> Once again
>
> http://www.gata.org/
>
> >
> > >> >I mean there is a lot more to this in terms of
> > >> >manipulation, but you fall on your face at the very doorway
> > >> >of saying gold cannot be manipulated in a major way.
> > >>
> > >> I didn't say that.  It can be, has been, and is being manipulated.
> > >> But it can't be cornered.
> > >
> > >I think you are splitting hairs regarding the negative effects
> > >that the gold standard leads to.
> >
> > I don't think so.  And what negative effects?
> >
> > >[v]  gain control over; "corner the gold market"
> > >
> > >http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/corner
> > >
> > >First try on google. Gain control over.  100% controls
> > >sez GATA, but even 70 or 80% control is way to much.
> >
> > To corner is to control 100% of market supply.  There is just no way
> > to do that with gold, because inventories are just too big.
> >
> > >I think the silver
> > >cornering failed.
> >
> > Bingo.  And cornering gold would be orders of magnitude more
> > difficult.
>
> If this is accurate, then there are magnitudes more gold available
> than there is silver. I haven't researched the quantities of each, and
> look forward to your data showing that gold is more plentiful in the
> earth, by several magnitudes, than silver.
>
> I'm serious that I have no idea what are the tonnages.  I would
> still bet against you, strictly on the basis of your credibilty vis
> a vis your previous statements. Usually I always check these
> things out, but you are so easily proven a liar or idiot, that I
> will leave myself open here, to provide a bit of a challenge.
>
> So please show that gold is several magnitudes more plentiful
> than silver.
>
> dp
>
> >
> > -- Roy L
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>