Re: TURMEL: Money, Interest and Prosperity

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> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:33:54 GMT, "Dan Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:09:20 GMT, "Dan Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Of course a simpleton would think a 100% control
> >> >factor would be the only control factor to worry about.
> >>
> >> Do you know what "corner" means?
> >
> >It means there are monopoly forces at play.
>
> No, actually, it doesn't.


Well this is neat Roy. You told me I didn't know the
definition of a word. I supplied a meaning for it, along with
a reference.

You repeat my meaning is wrong, yet do not supply a definition or
a reference.

Is there a way that a lowly plebe like myself may get a great man
like to you to lower himself to designate what a word means (in order
that the dictionaries may be corrected)?

>
> >I think they are wrong that the game will be over.
>
> Of course.  As long as governments are trying to convince people that
> their toilet paper is "as good as gold," one way they will do that is
> by trying to make gold look bad.
>
> >> >You can look at the Great Depression for a more modern
> >> >version of this (where gold was confiscated, by making it
> >> >illegal for citizens to hold it).
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/MainPages/Comic.asp?Page=7&Language=Engl
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> >sh
> >>
> >> Forcible confiscation is not "cornering."
> >
> >No, it just helped the monopolizers is all, or led to cornering.
>
> I agree.  But it was obviously done to _demonetize_ gold.

As I understand your argument here, you are agreeing that
gold was cornered, in order to make your case that it is
idiocy to suggest that gold could be cornered.  In your
first post, (which failed to explain how the gold standard
did not lead to the current debt/interest monetary fraud
we have now) you called it idiocy to suggest that gold
could be cornered; (which is to say FDR did not make
gold possession illegal in the U.S, and all the history books that
say this are wrong.) Nevermind the GATA stuff you snipped
which reiterates lawsuits and basically proof that gold
is being controlled on an international basis.

Once again

http://www.gata.org/

>
> >> >I mean there is a lot more to this in terms of
> >> >manipulation, but you fall on your face at the very doorway
> >> >of saying gold cannot be manipulated in a major way.
> >>
> >> I didn't say that.  It can be, has been, and is being manipulated.
> >> But it can't be cornered.
> >
> >I think you are splitting hairs regarding the negative effects
> >that the gold standard leads to.
>
> I don't think so.  And what negative effects?
>
> >[v]  gain control over; "corner the gold market"
> >
> >http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/corner
> >
> >First try on google. Gain control over.  100% controls
> >sez GATA, but even 70 or 80% control is way to much.
>
> To corner is to control 100% of market supply.  There is just no way
> to do that with gold, because inventories are just too big.
>
> >I think the silver
> >cornering failed.
>
> Bingo.  And cornering gold would be orders of magnitude more
> difficult.

If this is accurate, then there are magnitudes more gold available
than there is silver. I haven't researched the quantities of each, and
look forward to your data showing that gold is more plentiful in the
earth, by several magnitudes, than silver.

I'm serious that I have no idea what are the tonnages.  I would
still bet against you, strictly on the basis of your credibilty vis
a vis your previous statements. Usually I always check these
things out, but you are so easily proven a liar or idiot, that I
will leave myself open here, to provide a bit of a challenge.

So please show that gold is several magnitudes more plentiful
than silver.

dp

>
> -- Roy L